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Name: johnr
Date: September 17, 2005 at 04:20:36 Pacific
OS: XP Pro
CPU/Ram: 2500+/1gig
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I'm still looking for an easy to use version of Linux - I've just been playing with a free copy of Linspire which runs from CD - it's on the latest cover DV of Computer shopper if anyone's interested. I'm very impressed and one thing I've been reading about is being able to install applications 'with one click' rather than the relatively long-winded method of other distros. Does anyone here use Linspire? Are apps easy to install? How does it compare with other distros? I'd like to get into Linux but I have not got the time/enthusiasm to learn some of its anachronistic ways.

TIA John

"I know that I'm mad - I've always been mad..."



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Response Number 1
Name: FishMonger
Date: September 17, 2005 at 08:15:34 Pacific
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I used Linspire for a short while but took it off because my film scanner doesn't have Linux drivers. Fry's Electronics has a Linspire system on sale for $170 so I think I'll be picking up another system today.
http://shop3.outpost.com/catreq/3388

If you want the look and feel of Windows on a Linux system, then Linspire is the best I've seen. The “one click” install is nice but from what I remember you need to subscribe to their service and pay an annual fee and you're limited to the apps that they have available. Also, you need to pay for most of those apps, even the ones that are free open source packages.


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Response Number 2
Name: johnr
Date: September 17, 2005 at 10:51:17 Pacific
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Thanks for reply - have just found out they were giving Linspire away free up until Sept 6th - never mind!! They advertise a lot of free apps on the Linspire site (it looks like you need to join up for $20 a year to get the CNR stuff) but if they're decent I don't mind paying - no different from M$ really. Is driver availability a big issue with Linux generally? - I tried the CD version on a laptop & it wouldn't recognise my wireless card - are hardware drivers, when available, easy enough to install?

Thanks again

"I know that I'm mad - I've always been mad..."


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Response Number 3
Name: eskiled
Date: September 18, 2005 at 09:08:18 Pacific
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or you could go the free way. google "ubuntu linux"

www.linuxteens.com


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Response Number 4
Name: johnr
Date: September 18, 2005 at 11:16:59 Pacific
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Thanks for that Eskiled - downloaded the 'live' version to try - it's not as user friendly as Linspire (which even automaticaly logged on to my Windows network - dead impressed!) & I haven't yet found out how easy it is to install new apps - my main gripe with Linux generally, but I'll give it a bit more of a testdrive as I like the intentions of ubuntu, but if I need to pay a bit for a user friendly Linux then I'm happy to do that.

Just as an aside, I've been working with computers on the hardware side for over 20 years now & I have fond memories of completing tedious sheets to produce cards which were fed into mainframes at University, the aim of which was to produce a program to do very simple arithmetic. Come back the following day to find it failed due to one dot in the wrong place - I swore then that I wouldn't use a computer until it was able to speak my language, or as near as we could compromise on. Unfortunately Mr Gates has provided such a tool & I don't want to have the retrograde step of having to 'speak' to a computer in a non-natural way again, but I have yet to find my holy grail of a Windows replacement on the PC.

"I know that I'm mad - I've always been mad..."


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Response Number 5
Name: GX1 Man
Date: September 18, 2005 at 16:06:53 Pacific
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Linspire is the easiest way to transition from a Windows world. Some of the hardware is difficult if not impossible to work with Linux, but improvements hapopen all the time. For instance those damn WinModems that are made to work only with Windows, and then people complain about Linux not working for them over a $6 piece of junk, rather than getting a real modem for a few bucks more (if they even need a modem). The manufacturers have to either support Linux, or lose potential customers.

I run Linspire on my main machine. I have other versions of LInux on different partitions and machines, but Linspire takes virtually all of the headaches away with installing new programs and so much more. CLick and Run is a service, and you have to pay for services. Eventually you may move on to another distribution, but I can load an entire operating systgem with a Microsoft compatible office suite and all of the other apps you might have to pay extra for with Windows in less than 10 minutes !!!! That's right - 10 minutes.

You may find som naysayers about Linspire or LInux in general - but I don't have to worry about viruses, adware, spyware and those other great Windows "perks".

So e-mail me or post back, and be sure and head over to www.linspire.com and check out the forums there if you want. Just remember that some of the posts are from people having problems, the ones sailing along withouit issue seldom post.

You will be investging more in hardware and software with WIndows, but you can still only type so fast.

By the way, some wireless cards don't work, some do, plus a new release is right around the corner and one of my cards that used to not work now does. (A D-Link - one of the worst offenders.)

Enjoy.

Mark

You can avoid many of these Windows problems with Linux. Linspire eases the transition for new users


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Response Number 6
Name: GX1 Man
Date: September 18, 2005 at 16:11:43 Pacific
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I forgot to mention if you post your hardware I could maybe give you a head's up on it. If you try the live CD and everything works, you're good to go.

You can avoid many of these Windows problems with Linux. Linspire eases the transition for new users


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Response Number 7
Name: johnr
Date: September 19, 2005 at 11:48:43 Pacific
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Thanks for all advice. I've downloaded & installed ubuntu on a desktop - all went very smoothly & again it recognised all hardware as well as my Windows network. Not as easy to find way around as Linspire though so I think I'm stil going down that route.
The card causing problems is a Linksys & they don't appear to mention supporting Linux so I may have to look around for a different manufacturer.
Thanks again.

"I know that I'm mad - I've always been mad..."


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Response Number 8
Name: GX1 Man
Date: September 19, 2005 at 16:14:13 Pacific
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What model card is it? Linksys are notorious as I said for producing Windows only drivers, but my Linksys is doing fine with the soon to be released new version, which you will also get free with Linspire!

You can avoid many of these Windows problems with Linux. Linspire eases the transition for new users


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Response Number 9
Name: nogo
Date: September 20, 2005 at 19:48:33 Pacific
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I tried that free Linspire download and can't get it to install. the old linspire installs with no problem but can't even install it over the old version either. I've fdisk /mbr, fixmbr,,,


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Response Number 10
Name: johnr
Date: September 21, 2005 at 01:01:37 Pacific
Reply:

The card is a Linksys WPC11.

Sorry, you say "...which you will also get free with Linspire!". Are they planning to do another freebee issue or are we talking about drivers being free?

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Response Number 11
Name: GX1 Man
Date: September 21, 2005 at 03:22:51 Pacific
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What are the specifics of the system you can't install on? If it is some state of the art, SATA based, with a brand new high end video adapter there may be a few problems for now, but stay tuned, that will be fixed soon.

I have a Linksys WPC11 version 3 that ran fine straight out of the box with Linspire from 4.5 on (as well as every other Linux I tried). Again that is a version 3 (look on the card). As versions change, different chipsets are used without any kind of notification to the buyer usually.

You can avoid many of these Windows problems with Linux. Linspire eases the transition for new users


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Response Number 12
Name: johnr
Date: September 21, 2005 at 06:21:08 Pacific
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Hmm, mine's version 3 as well - could it be because I was using the 'Live' CD based version of Linspire (5.0)? Shall give it another go anyway.

"I know that I'm mad - I've always been mad..."


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Response Number 13
Name: johnr
Date: September 21, 2005 at 06:37:36 Pacific
Reply:

OK, just tried it again & it accepted the wireless connection this time - getting more impressed by the moment :-)

As far as licensing is concerned, if I purchase a full copy of Linspire, is it ok to install it on a desktop and laptop or do I need two separate licences?

"I know that I'm mad - I've always been mad..."


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Response Number 14
Name: GX1 Man
Date: September 21, 2005 at 14:40:19 Pacific
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This is not WIndows, so you may install it on an many computers that you have in your home!!!! There is no activation. Once you sign up for click and run (to download the updates and programs you need from the warehouse at a nominal $19.95 per year for the ease of installation that NO other linux distribution has, without worrying about dependencies, etc.) you are set. Only one Click and Run membership is needed for as many PCs as you have at home as well.

Can't beat that deal.

I kneqw that the version 3 Linksys card would work. Don't know why you had a problem the first go round. Hand onto that one. As I said it works with all major Linuxes I've tried. (Version 4 doesn't, but that's due to the numerous chipset combinations available.)

E-mail me if you have further questions or post here.

Mark


You can avoid many of these Windows problems with Linux. Linspire eases the transition for new users


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Response Number 15
Name: johnr
Date: September 22, 2005 at 02:57:49 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks again for replies - I've also been trying Ubuntu, as it's a free download, this also seems to have a 'click & install' system which works - it's under 'add/remove programs' - gives a fairly comprehensive list of software available which just download & install with one click. It does seem slightly different in that it also lists the software already installed alongside what's available - I don't know if this is all Ubuntu-specific stuff though.

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