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KDE is NOT missing in RedHat 8.0

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Name: Frank Mimbs
Date: October 10, 2002 at 10:52:20 Pacific
OS: redhat 8.0
CPU/Ram: athlon/512
Comment:

I have run across too many complaints about KDE not being available in RedHat 8.0.

Two words......IT IS!

In this regard it is no different from any other Red Hat release. That is, Gnome is the default GUI after installation, and if you want to use KDE you select it from the login screen (look at the bottom of the screen). You can also run switchdesk to make KDE the default.

.....and you can use KDM as your login manager (instead of gdm) by editing /etc/X11/prefdm.

I understand the frustrations. I haven't always known how to do this kind of stuff. Please, all I'm asking is that everyone stop posting the false statement that KDE is gone or broken in RedHat 8.0.

Crack open a book or just play with your system and figure out how to make things work as you like.
If you're still having a hard time, then post a question. The people who use this forum are unusually helpful, and we'll help you get things going.



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Response Number 1
Name: domenic
Date: October 10, 2002 at 16:04:14 Pacific
Reply:

Frank, I was only offended because I was venting my fustration. I do apologize in my venting and language only because I was REALLY fustrated at the difference between redhat 7.3 (God I loved it) and 8.0. I use redhat 7.3 at home only because Here at IBM where I work we use it (redhat server)on our large/mainframe servers and cost/performance is abolutely awesome with redhat. No offense taken I was just a little hot-headed, redhat is a great distro but I just had to revert to my old frind Slackware (been using it since I was 16!). KDE is available, but i guess just not on my disc! :)

Linux forever...


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Response Number 2
Name: Frank Mimbs
Date: October 10, 2002 at 16:18:00 Pacific
Reply:

I'm using Redhat 7.3 on my server here at work also and I will definitely NOT be migrating it to version 8 because of its obvious problems.
I had to swim upstream to wipe Win2K off our server & replace it with Linux, so I'm not going to do the least thing to screw things up.

Given the fact that you're running it on a mainframe I can see why you're so disappointed with 8.0.

Seems that we're both browsing the message boards instead of working, huh?


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Response Number 3
Name: Old dynosaurs.
Date: October 10, 2002 at 18:02:08 Pacific
Reply:

KDE needs to be installed and the RH 8.0 and the default install is NO KDE.

Also when you login the default login is GNOME, ypu have at least once select KDE.

Obviously RH and SUN are reluctant to embrace KDE and QT that they seem to master not so well yet.

On the contrary Mandrake and SUSE have embraced QT/KDE with great benefits, and the results show: much nicer, more consistent user interface.

This reminds me of DEC (an excellent company then) who was very good at VMS, and lost a lot of ground by being so reluctant to accept Unix.
I suspect that the old dinosaurs at Red Hat have been using the "we have always done that way argument...".
They may be right but at the end a losing strategy, I believe.

O.D



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Response Number 4
Name: tex
Date: October 10, 2002 at 19:50:25 Pacific
Reply:

I used Redhat 8.0 for a little while. I had both
KDE and Gnome up and running. I wasn't
thrilled with the change and I am now very
happy with Mandrake 9.0 (I've always liked
drake).

As for Redhat...I remeber reading somewhere
that they are not planning on implementing
their new desktop on the server editions of
there software. At least not yet. Maybe it's a
trial by fire senario.


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Response Number 5
Name: Hal
Date: October 21, 2002 at 05:01:01 Pacific
Reply:

So guys help me out. I'm a linux newbie. I installed Redhat 8.0 yesterday (workstation install, all packages) and I've been fooling around with the default gnome interface but I'd like to open a new workspace and see what KDE looks like... Where do I start?

Is there a command I need to type at the shell prompt... and remember, I don't want to break the default interface, just want to give KDE a try.

Thanks - Hal



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Response Number 6
Name: Frank Mimbs
Date: October 21, 2002 at 16:38:13 Pacific
Reply:

Click on the sessions button at the bottom of your login screen. All of your GUIs can be selected there.


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Response Number 7
Name: Matthias Pospiech
Date: November 7, 2002 at 04:12:02 Pacific
Reply:

Maybe KDE ist not missing, but where for instance has kpackage gone ?
Its not on my computer. It should be in kadmin, but somehow it is not.
So I would admit to everyone saying that KDE IS broken in 8.0



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Response Number 8
Name: elmo recio
Date: November 17, 2002 at 19:54:41 Pacific
Reply:

um... KDE in redhat 8.0 sucks a nut... i'm sorry, but redhat started to win me over (from slackware) with their 7.1, 7.2, and 7.3 releases! But now I have installed and reinstalled redhat 8.0 several times to fix a STUPID BUG in their Panel under kde (kicker). Basically, there are 'empty' icons... you can't remove them, but they take up space. And if you try to right click on the panel, click on remove, and click on 'button', the entire kicker crashes!! Not good... i think I am going back to slackware if i have to reinstall redhat 8.0 one more time...


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Response Number 9
Name: Piero Cau
Date: November 30, 2002 at 14:21:24 Pacific
Reply:

To Hal and others with the same problem.

If you cannot switch to KDE from the logging screen, that means that the KDE was not installed (even if you saw the word "KDE" appearing various times during the installation process !!)

You need to reinstall Red Hat 8.0. Just put you disk in your CD player and reboot, everything will work like the first time you installed redhat.

You can select a typical configuration (such as "workstation"). Before starting the actual installation, you are given the option to edit the list of packages that are going to be installed. DO IT. You will see the list of packages, some of which are unchecked. One of them is the KDE. CHECK IT, and start the installation.

After the installation, KDE will be available from the logging screen, selecting the pop-up menu at the bottom of the page.



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