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Is it normaly that slow?

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Name: Alex
Date: March 11, 2002 at 17:06:00 Pacific
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I finally installed Red Hat thinking that it's faster than other OSs... and it is, but KDE and Gnome are slower than windows.

Is linux faster than windows only if you don't use a display manager or is it my fault?

(I have P2-400 and 64 Mb ram)



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Name: Guy
Date: March 11, 2002 at 20:22:54 Pacific
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Normally - if you did a full install ..... I think the 400 processer S/B OK - I run one Linux system on a PII-450, and it is OK.

I do think you are a little short on RAM with 64MB for a graphics environment. Both Gnome and KDE like memory. I'd kick that by at least 64M and more if you can afford it and your board will tolerate it. (My 450 has 384MB, but even a 128MB total will be better).

Just my $.02.

Regards, Guy

"You can never have a fast enough car or too much RAM".


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Name: littlejon
Date: March 12, 2002 at 05:32:51 Pacific
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I run Mandrake8.0 with KDE with a 350Mhz chip set to run at 385MHz and have 256MB memory. It runs about same speed as win98(when win98 is working well), maybe a little faster sometimes, maybe a little slower sometimes. With lot less memory, suggest ICE or Blackbox or other smaller window manager (I kinda like WindowMaker) instead of KDE or Gnome. KDE is easiest for brand new newbie coming from windoze, but others not hard to get used to. Try several and pick one that works best for you.


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Name: Jake
Date: March 12, 2002 at 10:51:30 Pacific
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How much swap space do you have? It normally gets slow when it needs to swap, but if it can't swap, I would imagine it would be REALLY slow.


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Response Number 4
Name: Ozzy
Date: March 12, 2002 at 12:47:09 Pacific
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You can have a Gig of swap space, that won't make any difference with just 64 MB of RAM.

I run RH 7.2 with KDE and Gnome on my notebook ( Celeron 400, 64MB RAM ) and the only thing that made it go a lot faster was an extra stick of 128 MB RAM.


-Ozzy



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Response Number 5
Name: Jeremy
Date: March 12, 2002 at 13:56:10 Pacific
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I run RedHat 7.2 on a PII-266 w/128 MB of ram, and I use KDE and Gnome, and it runs fine. I would just suggest uping the memory.


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Response Number 6
Name: Neil
Date: March 13, 2002 at 10:15:14 Pacific
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I have recently installed Mandrake 8.1 have an AMD 400Mhz with 256mb RAM, it does seem quite a lot slower than Win 98, My swap space equals RAM size. I use Gnome.


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Response Number 7
Name: kloss korban
Date: March 13, 2002 at 11:30:57 Pacific
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Gnome and KDE are pure Bloat!!!!
try http://undeadlinux.com/

The Enlightenment Desktop is the way to go!!!


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Response Number 8
Name: Mike Luczkow
Date: March 24, 2002 at 08:48:05 Pacific
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No. X-Gui's have great potential to run very fast and also be extremely reliable. The most vital component of having a "snappy" system, assuming you mean the GUI responds quickly, is to ensure that the video hardware settings are configured correctly. Make sure you have the right chipset's installed and the right amount of video memory configured. Rule of thumb- NEVER trust a hardware probe! Double check that the right chipset is chosen. Most times the video probe during the install will get the right manufacturer, but not always the right chipset. I had this problem with my
trident blade3d video. it was probed as a blade, then it ran slow as s---. so i went back and reinstalled everything, but looked closely at every option, and sure enough, there was an option for blade3d. If you have the right chipset and memory chosen then the next thing would be to ensure your swap space is configured correctly. You want your swap space to be about the same size as your ram (Double if you have <64MB), but more imporantly the swap partition should start at the 1 sector of the disk. Having the swap on the inner circumference of the disk allows for the fastest possible access time. After configuring everything to work correctly, open up a system task monitor and SEE if your resources are even being used. If you arent using ANY swap space, that's a problem. If you're using all of it, that's also a problem. System resources should be moderate as a rule of thumb, and anything that is either not being utilized or is being over-utilized will degrade your system performance. 95% of the time it's a video config problem :-)


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