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Name: Karen
Date: March 10, 2001 at 17:37:19 Pacific
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My little brother was killed in a car accident in December. He owned a IBM thinkpad and put a password on the hard drive. We would like to access whatever he had on the computer for memories sake. Is this a lost cause? I have been unable to find a feasible solution. Any help would be appreciated.



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Response Number 1
Name: Lispeb
Date: March 10, 2001 at 18:27:44 Pacific
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I'm assuming that by "HD password" you mean a CMOS password. If this is the case, there are a few things you can do:

1) Take out the hard drive and put it into another computer. It will work fine as long as you've set the jumpers correctly (IBM can help you with this over the phone).

2) Try setting jumpers on the motherboard to clear the CMOS password. Again, IBM will help you if you don't know what to do.

3) There are some DOS programs that can erase CMOS passwords, though only on certain computers. I'm not sure if it will work on a Thinkpad.


I have never heard of such a thing as a "Hard Drive Password", however, if there is such a thing, I am sure it is removable and by calling IBM and explaining the situation I don't doubt you could get the hard drive to work again.


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Response Number 2
Name: dd
Date: March 11, 2001 at 09:23:28 Pacific
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also taking out the battery (not the laptop
battery) the one on the motherboard (if
laptops have them I don't know much about
laptops)take it out for about 2-3 min, this
will erease the bios back to factory default.


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Response Number 3
Name: Square
Date: March 11, 2001 at 13:06:09 Pacific
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As far as i know the Tkinkpad HD password you set in the BIOS is stored on the HD. It's different from the BIOS password. Somebody told me that it will not work, if you put the HD into another Computer.

If IBM can't tell you how to bypass the password, some data recovery firms may be able to help you. But they usually charge a lot.

I'm not even sure if it would work to take the magnetic disks out of the HD and put them in a different HD ...

Good luck!


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Response Number 4
Name: Justin Dick
Date: March 16, 2001 at 23:49:36 Pacific
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To add to what has already been written:

I have not worked on an IBM laptop, but I imagine that the procedure is similar:
Generally there are jumpers (a little piece of plastic that connects two metal points - just a kind of switch, really) inside the computer that allow you to wipe the CMOS memory (used for storing, among other things, boot-up passwords). Usually, you take out the battery, change the jumper, turn on the computer, turn it back off, replace the jumper, and then all passwords are reset. It's really easy on a big desktop machine, but it is anything but (usually) on a packed-together laptop. My advice is to find a friend that is known for taking things apart and putting them back together again. He doesn't need to know too much about computers, but he should be proficient with small screws. :)

The other possibility is that the password exists in software. If you can get the computer to boot up, like to Windows or something, but he has passwords on his files (like Word documents), you will need a friend that DOES know quite a bit about computers. There is a plethora of information on the internet about how to remove passwords for such files, but if you aren't experienced it may be too much. It's worth a shot though.

I'm sorry to hear about your brother. At least he is happy now.


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Response Number 5
Name: john
Date: May 15, 2001 at 12:35:41 Pacific
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Just to clear up some things, first of all thinkpads do have HD passwords. It is stored in encrypted form in track 0 of the drive and there really is no good way to get it out and still save the data on the drive.
Second of all thinkpads have NO cmos jumpers!
They are NV RAM cmos chips and do not require a battery back-up to maintain memory.
There are two kinds of cmos passwords on a thinkpad. 1.User password- remove floppy or cdrom drive and look carefully for a jumper underneath the second battery terminals. With the power off jump across them with a screwdriver and leave it in place while booting the computer.

2.Admin password-bad news-the only thing you can do with this one is short the cmos chip itself. You can tell the difference by if it gives the code 158 before asking for the password. If you need to know how to do this one e-mail me and i will give you further info. Sounds like you probably have a harddrive password to which i really dont know the answer without destroying the data.


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Response Number 6
Name: john
Date: June 2, 2001 at 14:37:34 Pacific
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UPDATE:


Because of working with these every day i may have figured out a way around HD passwords. I've tried it twice and both times it has worked great , but ive only tried it with the 600E series. Currently working on breaking the 760 series. I do remove passwords from IBM Thinkpad 760 series and 600E series laptops and HD passwords on the 600E's. I do charge because on average it takes two to three hours to do one and is very time consuming.

Here are some other services so you can compare prices.

http://www.pwcrack.com/BIOS/bios.html
http://www.onlink.net/nortek/hdd_pw.html

Anyway i charge about 50 dollars plus shipping. And unlike the big companies, if you have one of the ones thats easy to remove i'll tell ya.


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Response Number 7
Name: Frank Bulk
Date: June 2, 2001 at 19:19:43 Pacific
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Call me stupid, but I know the HDD and Master passwords for my client's laptop. But how do I change it, once I know it? The BIOS screen doesn't allow me to leave it blank.


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Response Number 8
Name: canucktux
Date: June 4, 2001 at 16:29:25 Pacific
Reply:

In response to Frank Bulk (#7) -- I will resist the temptation to call you stupid.

The following is specific to: IBM ThinkPad 365x, 380, 385, 560, 600, 750, 755, 760, 765, and 770.

(IBM says...)
If you forget your power-on password, you cannot reset it. You have to take the computer to an IBM authorized reseller or IBM marketing representative to have the password cancelled. Proof of purchase is required, and an additional charge might be required for the service.

REMOVING A POWER-ON PASSWORD:
You must remove your password at the password prompt that appears when you turn on the computer. To remove the password, Enter your current password, press the Spacebar and then press Enter.

SETTING A POWER-ON PASSWORD:
1. Start Easy-Setup by pressing and holding F1 and then turning on the computer.
2. Select Password icon and then select the Power-On icon.
3. Type your desired Power-On password; then press Enter. You can use any combination of up to 7 characters. Use a combination of any letters or numbers (A to Z, 0 to 9) in uppercase or lowercase. Uppercase and lowercase letters are treated the same.
4. Type your Power-On drive password again to verify it; the press Enter.

Note: When setting the password, the password screen will allow you to type in more than 7 characters. However, when entering in the password during boot up, it will only recognize the first 7 characters. If you type more than 7 characters, it will indicate that an invalid password was set. For example, if you set up the power-on password to be MYFIRSTTP, when you were prompted to enter the password during boot up, it would only recognize MYFIRST as a valid password.

CHANGING A POWER-ON PASSWORD:
1. Turn off the computer and wait at least 5 seconds; then turn it on.
2. When the Power-On drive password prompt appears, type your current Power-On drive password; then press Spacebar.
3. Type the new password; then press the Spacebar. Use no more than 7 characters.
4. Type the new password again to verify it; then press Enter.

Thus spake Big Blue.


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Response Number 9
Name: Binesh
Date: June 18, 2001 at 07:37:24 Pacific
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Hi

My boss handed over his laptop ( IBM Thinkpad T20) to me to reinstall Win2000.
When I tried to change the boot sequence, there was a Admin password and neither of us knew it.

I tried removing the CMOS battery and the dissassembled the whole laptop and found no jumpers or switches to reset the password

Now the machine is asking Power on password.

I contacted our local support of IBM Distribution, few ppl in the support are unaware(?) of a solution and others telling to replace the motherboard and that was the only solution.

Do you have any solution to help me out of this?

pls mail me your comments and suggestions

Thanks

Binesh


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Response Number 10
Name: Nortek Computers Ltd
Date: June 22, 2001 at 13:25:05 Pacific
Reply:

A Hard Disk password is located on the drive itself in an area inaccessible to the user; there is no way a user can remove or bypass an unknown Hard Disk password. A password protected drive and all stored data will remain inaccessible if installed in any computer.

Proprietary hardware and software has been developed that is capable of removing unknown notebook Hard Disk passwords with the option of full data recovery. Visit the link provided below for complete password removal details.

http://www.nortek.on.ca/nortek/

Marty Wanner
nortek@onlink.net



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Response Number 11
Name: alex
Date: January 22, 2002 at 02:00:44 Pacific
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Open the DIMM cover (where the memory chips are) Here you'll find "password pads" - short curcuit them and the power on password are removed. This might solve yor problem - did it for me....

The password pads may be located under a DIMM module so remove any extended memory to find those shiny square "dots".

alex.



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