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Name: beboldpls
Date: April 24, 2004 at 04:06:49 Pacific
OS: redhat linux8
CPU/Ram: 256mb
Comment:

hi guys,

i just installed redhat linux8 in my system..how to play mp3 and mpeg players in my system. is it necessary to download any tools for that. or it contain default tool like media player in windows...

so plese help me

thnx in advance

babu



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Response Number 1
Name: taurus
Date: April 24, 2004 at 07:05:40 Pacific
Reply:

First, forget about the Windows Media Player crap, okay!!! This is Linux and you use xmms to play your mp3s and either xine or mplayer to play your video files. As far as I remember, RedHat Linux doesn't ship a working version of xmms so you need to head over to http://www.xmms.org and download the latest version of xmms for RedHat Linux 8.0. Install it as root and off you go...

rpm -Uvh filename.rpm

taurus


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Response Number 2
Name: Sandman
Date: April 24, 2004 at 11:52:17 Pacific
Reply:

WARNING!!!
Skip this post unless you want to listen to me ramble on forever about nothing

You know it's kind of funny, Microsoft just was sued from including its own media player. I have tried all of the main media players and I still prefer WMP 6.4 for movies. I use Winamp for audio though. Microsoft did not keep me from using a different player.

I hated having to install a media player. It would not have minded it if it wasn't such a hassle. I went into rpmdrake and tried to install mplayer and BAM it tells me I need to install around ten dependences. I just sat there with my jaw hanging open, drooling slightly, and thinking to myself "ok...go get that for me". I know about apt-get (I wonder if I would have to download that too :|) and such programs, but again that is an extra hassle. I do not want to have to download ten extra files on dialup just to watch a movie. I for one was very glad to see Mandrake 10 at least comes with a media player installed.

I think the whole case with EU was a complete waste of time and money. Don't get me wrong, I know Microsoft needs to be tamed but come on. I also know there is an easy way to remove WMP from Windows. I just wish they would just make it public so everyone can be happy :\.

I cannot understand why something like this even matters though. No one is forced to use Windows. There are other viable options available. If you don't like Windows don't use it right? My phone carrier does not have a monopoly because I have a choice of different carriers. Why doesn't the same apply for Microsoft? So what if someone may have to learn how to use their computer. I fail to see how that is Microsoft's fault.

Microsoft's new slogan should read
"Software so easy, we have to be a monopoly. We just have to be"

Do you know something Microsoft definitely has going for it? It's something I wish Linux had. A shared vision. Having a huge number of *nix distro's is a plus. I just wish everyone in the Linux community would band together and work on one truly awesome distro.

Ok I've gotten carried away and WAY off topic. I blame you Taurus :)
"First, forget about the Windows Media Player crap, okay!!!" <-- that did it right there LOL

Sandman

An Official Microsoft Minion. ÿ



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Response Number 3
Name: taurus
Date: April 24, 2004 at 14:29:01 Pacific
Reply:

Blah, blah, blah...

Would you like any CHEEEEEEEEEESE with that
"whine?"

taurus


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Response Number 4
Name: Jake
Date: April 24, 2004 at 21:01:55 Pacific
Reply:

"I went into rpmdrake and tried to install mplayer and BAM it tells me I need to install around ten dependences." - I guess you tried the wrong distribution. On some, it's as easy as one command. Even with the dependencies hassle, compare its features to a Windows player. Mplayer does DVD, [S]VCD, [S]VCD from bin/cue images, Quicktime, WM[AV], DiVX, Xvid, Ogg audio, MPEG 1 and 2, Real, and probably more. As I count it, you would need at least 5 programs to get that support from proprietary Windows players. If it's built with mencoder support, you get the features of another few programs. Also, I don't know if any Windows players have post-processing filters for better quality.

"No one is forced to use Windows." - Sure, but if you don't build your own computer, you're often forced to buy it.

"...band together and work on one truly awesome distro." - If they did that, I'd probably switch to FreeBSD. I want a traditional distro that's more difficult to use but gives me more control.


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Response Number 5
Name: Sandman
Date: April 25, 2004 at 04:12:35 Pacific
Reply:

"Would you like any CHEEEEEEEEEESE with that "whine?""
Yes a grilled cheese sandwich sounds rather good right about now :)

""I guess you tried the wrong distribution."
I was using Mandrake 9.1 at the time, a distro that is often recommended for its ease of use.

"Mplayer does DVD, [S]VCD, [S]VCD from bin/cue images, Quicktime, WM[AV], DiVX, Xvid, Ogg audio, MPEG 1 and 2, Real, and probably more"

I'm guessing you haven't heard of Media Player Classic. This one player supports all of these formats (you have to have images turned on in My Computing.net to see the image), while only using one executable file.

"Sure, but if you don't build your own computer, you're often forced to buy it."

I may be wrong on this, but it seems like this is, at least in part, the manufactures fault. Aren't they the ones signing the deals with Microsoft? No one is forcing this on them but the truth is Windows makes money. A non-Windows user unfortunately has to pay for this but who should really get the blame?

"If they did that, I'd probably switch to FreeBSD."

I have to admit that was not one of my best thoughts. The one distro idea is a bad one. All of the flavors of Linux is one of the great things about it. I just wish they had more things that were common amongst the various distros. If the various distros worked together a little more everyone would be better off. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with a little uniformity within a community. It's not that I want to see another Microsoft, that certainly isn't the case. Microsoft is learning a lot from Linux (here is one small example of this), Linux needs to do the same.

Sandman

An Official Microsoft Minion. ÿ



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Response Number 6
Name: Jake
Date: April 25, 2004 at 15:05:41 Pacific
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"I was using Mandrake 9.1" - Strange, Mandrake 10 includes MPlayer.

"I may be wrong on this, but it seems like this is, at least in part, the manufactures fault. Aren't they the ones signing the deals with Microsoft?" - Yes, but those deals are unfair. The antitrust settlement is supposed to prevent this, but in the past, Microsoft would tell companies that if they didn't put Windows on all their desktops, they couldn't put it on any of them.

I've been looking for a media player to recommend to my friends who use Windows. So far I've been telling them to use VLC, but MPC might be better. I did a search for it, and some sites turned up "This program can play DVDs with help of external decoders like WinDVD and it can also play Realmedia files, if realplayer one is installed." Is this true?


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Response Number 7
Name: Sandman
Date: April 26, 2004 at 07:46:32 Pacific
Reply:

"Strange, Mandrake 10 includes MPlayer."

From response #2 "I for one was very glad to see Mandrake 10 at least comes with a media player installed."

My install comes with the Totem media player, not MPlayer but I have only downloaded the first iso file (56k).

"Microsoft would tell companies that if they didn't put Windows on all their desktops, they couldn't put it on any of them."

I agree, they should not have done this. Nevertheless, pc manufactures really should have refused the agreement and took Microsoft to court before signing anything. Then Microsoft would have changed the license or went broke. Microsoft may have done it but the manufactures allowed it, for to long, so I do not completely blame Microsoft. I’m not saying that their innocent, we all know that isn’t true.

"This program can play DVDs with help of external decoders like WinDVD and it can also play Realmedia files, if realplayer one is installed." Is this true?

It's kind of a yes/no answer. You don't need the programs themselves, just the codecs. Most Windows users probably don't know how to rip the codec out (I do) so these people will need to install the programs.

Media Player Classic (on SourceForge)

Sandman

An Official Microsoft Minion. ÿ


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Response Number 8
Name: taurus
Date: April 26, 2004 at 08:10:28 Pacific
Reply:

In case you don't know this, totem is a GUI for mplayer!!! And are you trying to get a job with MicroSuck or is that a loud sucking noise that I hear...

taurus


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Response Number 9
Name: Sandman
Date: April 26, 2004 at 09:00:08 Pacific
Reply:

"In case you don't know this, totem is a GUI for mplayer!!!"

Umm... isn't it apparent that I didn't know this?? I am still pretty new to Linux, only a couple months in now. But thanks for the info.

When I said "I blame you Taurus :)" I WAS JOKING AROUND!! Should you stop being troll and waiting for me to slip up? I think so :D Oh and I am still waiting on that cheese!! but can you please cut it before you ship it?

Jake, I wanted to thank you for tossing ideas back and forth with me. I've learned a few things and now have a better understanding of why Microsoft is often hated.

Sandman

An Official Microsoft Minion. ÿ


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Response Number 10
Name: Jake
Date: April 26, 2004 at 18:02:23 Pacific
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"You don't need the programs themselves, just the codecs. Most Windows users probably don't know how to rip the codec out (I do) so these people will need to install the programs."

And that's different from installing a bunch of dependencies how? Worst case you have a Linux distribution where you have to install the dependencies, then it's no more difficult than Windows, or best case you do in one command what would require hunting down a bunch of codecs in Windows.

It's interesting to get the perspective of "An Official Microsoft Minion."


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Response Number 11
Name: Sandman
Date: April 26, 2004 at 20:03:28 Pacific
Reply:

'And that's different from installing a bunch of dependencies how?"

It depends on which type of video files you watch. If you need to watch every video format known to man (for free) Linux has the advantage here.

But most of the video files on the net these days are either wmv, avi, mpeg, rm, or mov. I haven't watched a Real movie in over two years, three years for QuickTime. So the only thing I install is the DivX codec, everything else is already on my pc.

I'm not trying to speak for all Windows users. Some users will want every codec they can find, though most will only need one or two codecs.

Sandman

An Official Microsoft Minion. ÿ

P.S. Real has (buffering...) been dieing off (buffering...) slowly for years, not really (burrering...) sure why though.


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Response Number 12
Name: cedar
Date: April 29, 2004 at 00:35:51 Pacific
Reply:

taurus-

fyi Totem is the gui for xine not mplayer


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Response Number 13
Name: Sandman
Date: April 29, 2004 at 04:21:42 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you for the correct info Cedar :) It had me looking for a new frontend for Xine.

Jake, this is what I'm talking about though. I tryed installing Kaffeine and this is what I'm faced with.

I've installed gcc but I'm sure there is something else I probably need to install. This is a whole lot different then just having to download something like DivX or WMP.

I'm dyslexic, reading through a 23.3k config file is not really my idea of fun LOL.

Sandman

An Official Microsoft Minion. ÿ



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