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Hello!!
I am planning to resize a NTFS partition and make space for a Linux partition to install Debian GNU/Linux, and I want to know how much space Debian takes...
Thanx!!El-Trucha
Its all up to you and what you want on it. Personally I give my distro 20GB, but that's because I use Gentoo and compile everything from source. I would say at a minimum without X11, probably 100MB at the absolute least without any development tools, or anything useful like those.
Shoot for around 10GB-15GB probably.
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I have 10Gb total allocated for OS stuff, over a few partitions.
Keep in mind that the only way for Linux to write to NTFS is with captive and the driver from Windows. Read-only mode, however, is well supported without the Windows driver.
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Ohh...ok!
But wait!! how can an OS measure 10 GB?!!
I can't believe it!!! :O
One more thing, what is the "captive"???
Thanx!!El-Trucha
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The os depending on what you have install
could be anywhere from 500meg to 2gig.
Mine with all the development tools I want,
X, kde and some other utilities I want comes
in at around 1300meg. By the time I add my
home directory, half-life, ut2003 and a few
other things, I am using the best part of a
16gig partitian.
It is the same as with windows. The base
operating system takes a certain amount of
space and the rest is taken by everything
else you install.
I also have a system here where the main
system is only taking 850meg of a 1.3gig hd.
That system is also not setup as a desktop
machine. An image I built up which contains
enough to boot and a few development
packages is less than 400meg in size.
It all depends on what you want to do with
the system.
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FYI you can even squeeze a GNU/Linux install onto a floppy disk (~1.44Mb)...eg freesco (www.freesco.org) which can act as a router, firewall, time, DHCP, web and print server!
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WHAT THE HECK?!! ANOTHER ONE-FLOPPY OS?!! :0
I will try that Freesco thing when I get home!!! (I'm at school right now...)
Thanx!!El-Trucha
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There's a whole bunch of floppy based distros on freshmeat:
http://freshmeat.net/browse/1013/?topic_id=1013And some more on sourceforge if you do a search for "floppy based"
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Oooooooohhhhh.....I see...I will try that search then!! I love OS's that don't need to install...
Thanx for the suggestion!!! ;)El-Trucha
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In that cae you should definitely give something like knoppix a go, it's a full GNU/Linux distro with everything you sould need and boots straight from CD with no need to install. Gentoo, SuSE, Mandrake, Movix and gnoppix amongst others also have live cd versions....
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Yes, I tried Knoppix!! I use it on my Pentium II...(that's the only PC I can use it on...)
Knoppix is the CD version of Debian, right???
Thanx!!El-Trucha
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Now...for Freesco;
I had to make too much configurations that I didn't even know what to put on them...
Another thing, it doesn't have a GUI!! it's just command line!!!! (it's just like getting a DOS boot disk...)
Thanx anyways... ;)El-Trucha
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Sort of, knoppix is based on debian but not strictly a debian GNU/Linux distribution.
You'll be hard pushed by to fit an X server (GUI) onto a floppy, there wouldn't be much room for anything else!
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Ohh...I see...a great idea would be that they make a Linux distro on a floppy that has a GUI...(of course, without X (or whatever it's called))
El-Trucha
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You can get some, I think they spread over two floppies and come with a very light-weight X server. There are also others that don't need X but instead use vesa for displaying web pages etc. but that's down to the application (eg the browser links can use vesa). Probably the best way would be to use ncurses which allows for the use of menus and windows in text mode (looking a little like an old menu driven MSDOS program)...I think they are listed on the freshmeat link above.
Another great thing that might interest you is emovix, a small 8Mb distro which you can embed onto a CD/DVD enabling you to boot for the CD and play divx, DVDs, mp3s or whatever is on the CD!
http://movix.sourceforge.net/
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The easiest way to use emovix is to install it and then use k3b to create and burn the iso. Just go to File > New Project > New eMovix CD Project.
It's great as you never have to worry if someone has got the right codec for playback....and you can still play the files as per normal if you don't boot from the CD.
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Ooooohhh...ok!!
But it runs normal with Windows without booting from the CD???
Thanx!!! ;)El-Trucha
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Yep, you can browse it as you would any normal data CD under windoze, mac etc....it just has an extra 8Mb of files on it.
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If you want to create your own bootable CDs with the media on you want eMovix (I think the "e" stands for embedded).
Movix and Movix2 are both much more like knoppix or other bootable CD distros, the difference being that they are aimed at turning the computer into a multimedia station. Once you've used the CD to boot you can then watch TV, listen to MP3s, play DVDs etc. You can probably browse the net etc too.....I haven't tried them yet, I've only played around with eMovix so far. I think the difference between Movix and Movix2 is that the latter has a GUI.
So download eMovix and if you have broadband Movix2 as well.
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Ok, I will try Movix2 and eMovix then...since Movix1 doesn't have a GUI...
Now, I have 2 questions:
1. Can u display pics with e/Movix/2???
2. How can u watch TV???
Thanx!!! ;)El-Trucha
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1) I would imagine Movix2 will be able to display pictures fine....eMovix is really just a very small distro with mplayer (which can display image sequences....targas I think).
2) You need a TV card, mplayer also supports watching TV providing that your card is detected and supported.....never tried it myself.
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Ooohhh...I see...well, I just went to try it, and I had these problems:
1. It doesn't play from Windows.
2. When I try to boot from the diskette it displays a pic and then it says something like this: "boot failed, replace disks and then press any key to continue". Do I have to make the diskette in Linux format?? how do I do that???
Thanx!! ;)El-Trucha
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Are you talking about Movix2 or eMovix? I'm guessing that it is Movix2.
1) Movix wont play from windoze, you need to boot from the CD although you should be able to play any media files on a eMovix CD in windoze.
How did you burn the CD? If you are using nero you have to select to burn an image from the file menu and then point it at the iso file. If you have burned it correctly you should be able to browse the CD under windoze and see lots of files and directories. You don't want to extract anything from the iso image (some people have extracted the files with something called isoexplorer or similar and then created the CD) otherwise the CD will not be bootable.
After downloading, did you check the MD5sum incase the download is corrupted?
Can you try it in another PC?
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Depends on distro, and stuff you need.
From 150-200MB to 1.5GB, but count the space you'll need for others things.Try this: http://www.bios.biz
A lot of usefull documentation that could help you on this matter.
Cheers,
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Yes, I tried it in 2 PC's, both were Pentium II's.
Ok, I will go to that website right now! :)
Thanx all!!! ;)El-Trucha
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