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Name: gilloz
Date: January 14, 2009 at 19:38:04 Pacific
OS: Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
CPU/Ram: AMD 2100+/1 GB
Product: Soyo dragon + / HOME BUILD
Subcategory: Installation
Comment:

Will I have any problems in setting up a Dual boot with Vista 64 bit on Drive C and Ubuntu Hardy on Drive D? C and D are two individual drives. I forgot, this is going to be on a new computer with Vista 64 pre-installed.



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Response Number 1
Name: jefro
Date: January 14, 2009 at 19:58:20 Pacific
Reply:

Maybe.

Why not just install a virtual machine? You don't have to worry about dual booting. You can run both at the same time. With a supported processor you can run near, at or above native speeds even. A delete key is all it takes to recover the space.

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Response Number 2
Name: gilloz
Date: January 14, 2009 at 20:26:17 Pacific
Reply:

OK Jefro. I have been using Ubuntu for over a year exactly how I want to set up on my new computer, only this time I am starting off with Vista 64 on my first drive. I am not just trying out Ubuntu to experiment, I use it more than I have been using Win XP. I only use XP because of Quicken and my Canon Scanner. When you answered "Maybe" at the beginning, what exactly were you referring to in this process?


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Response Number 3
Name: larryf215
Date: January 15, 2009 at 08:00:22 Pacific
Reply:

"When you answered "Maybe" at the beginning, what exactly were you referring to in this process?" unbuntu installs grub to the master boot record, if this goes wrong you could lose access to windows. Usually you can restore the mbr, with a windows cd and regain access to windows but will this work with a restore cd supplied by an oem, or one you have to make yourself? Maybe not, you may end up have to do a complete restore. If you have to create those cds make sure you do it before you start "playing around".
Also if this is a new oem, are you going to be opening the case to install a 2nd HD?

larry


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Response Number 4
Name: gilloz
Date: January 15, 2009 at 12:56:23 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Larryf215. Thanks for the response. The computer will already have two drives installed. Both are each 320GB. I was planning on installing Ubuntu on the 2nd drive partitioned to 60GB only, for Ubuntu. The rest would be only storage space. I have installed Ubuntu about 4 times with different versions on my present computer and have never had a problem with Grub. But now, it's Vista 64 that I am up against and I'm not sure how that will turn out. Although you make a good point about the Recovery. I will be getting a stand alone Recovery OEM disk. BTW, this is a computer I had built Online with components I chose. I've already built two computers before and I didn't want to do this time because of DOA boards or components which I did not want to hassle shipping back and forth for replacements. This time someone else builds it and burn tests it for 48 hours prior to shipping.


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Response Number 5
Name: jefro
Date: January 15, 2009 at 14:38:58 Pacific
Reply:

So then tell me exactly how a virtual machine on this good computer would be less of an install to what you wish to do than a reboot to linux?

"Best Practices", Event viewer, host file, perfmon, antivirus, anti-spyware, Live CD's, backups, are in my top 10


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Response Number 6
Name: gilloz
Date: January 15, 2009 at 20:41:44 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Jefro. Can't answer your question. I've never tried it. Won't let it go by,though. I will try it and see how it works out. Thanks for coming back. I get my new computer next Monday.


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Response Number 7
Name: jam
Date: January 16, 2009 at 06:02:54 Pacific
Reply:

Microsoft is trying to put the whole Vista fiasco behind them. It's a bad OS that was not widely accepted or liked by a large percentage of PC users. The fact that Dell starting re-offering XP as an alternative speaks volumes about Vista's popularity. M$ has put Windows 7 on the front burner & are gonna push it out as fast as they can...they've already started their media blitz. I pity all those that jumped on the Vista bandwagon, only to be abandoned by the mighty M$. Oh well, at least they're going to be providing a cheap (or free) upgrade to Win7 for some suckers customers.

"Overall, this is a good strategy for Microsoft. With Windows 7 coming hopefully later this year, there's no point in still pushing the Vista trainwreck."

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds...

One thing that Vista did accomplish though was that it pushed many of us into looking at Linux, so in that respect, I guess it wasn't a complete failure. Anyhow, have you considered using WUBI?

http://wubi-installer.org/


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Response Number 8
Name: gilloz
Date: January 16, 2009 at 06:12:06 Pacific
Reply:

Jam, with all due respect, your crossed out "suckers" was unnecessary. I am fully aware of the point you made. I just wanted to see what it was all about, at my expense. I have been using Ubuntu for over a year and only come to Windows occasionaly. Those sly comments aren't necessary. But, thanks for your response. Have a good day.


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Response Number 9
Name: jam
Date: January 16, 2009 at 07:43:17 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry, I just felt like ranting. I think M$ really screwed a lot of people over.

Anyhow, here's the edited version of response 7:

Have you considered using WUBI?

http://wubi-installer.org/


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Response Number 10
Name: gilloz
Date: January 16, 2009 at 10:29:00 Pacific
Reply:

Ok jam, not a problem. Yes, I read about it in the Ubuntu forums and because I have never experienced any problems in my clean install of Ubuntu a few times, I never considered using WUBI. You know what they say about sticking to something that works. Well, thats me. I was going to order my my computer without any OS so I could just install my Windows XP Pro, but they were going to install Vista anyway to do the burn tests so I just went with it. Now, I am contemplating a triple boot with Vista 64, Windows XP Pro and Ubuntu Hardy. I definitely have the hard drive space for it. Thanks for the response.


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Response Number 11
Name: jefro
Date: January 16, 2009 at 14:02:17 Pacific
Reply:

Anyone care to buy two full copies if Windows ME?

Any you thought Vista was bad?

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Response Number 12
Name: jam
Date: January 16, 2009 at 15:01:32 Pacific
Reply:

Vista is to NTFS as WinME is to FAT32 ;-)


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Response Number 13
Name: gilloz
Date: February 2, 2009 at 11:16:39 Pacific
Reply:

Feedback time. I downloaded the 64 bit ISO file for Ubuntu, burned the image on a CD, loaded it on my new computer(Vista 64) and all went without a hiccup. Ubuntu is on my second physical drive. Works like a champ, as I was expecting. No surprises at all.


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