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I already have WinXP Pro installed in my machine which has one 80GB hard disk. The disk has 4 partitions - C:, D:, E: & F:. C: is the System partition but WinXP is installed in the D: drive i.e. D: is the Boot partition.
Today I installed Mandrake Linux 8.2 in E:. During the instalation process, the setup asked me for the Mandrake Linux 8.2 CD2 & CD3 which I didn't have (it was only when the setup asked me for CD2 & CD3 did I realize that those 2 CDs are also needed). However the setup didn't abort due to this & the installation went off smoothly. All I was told (when I was asked to insert the 2 CDs in the CD-ROM drive) is that if I don't have the 2 CDs, then just press the 'Cancel' button to proceed with the installation. At the end, the setup also showed a message saying that Linux has been installed successfully.
Now when I boot my machine, I get the following 5 options to boot from:
linux
linux - nonfb
failsafe
windows
floppyWhen I select linux or linux - nonfb, Linux does a series of successful checks (like hardware config, drives etc.) after which I am told to enter my login name & password (which I configured during the installation process). After entering the correct login & password, all I get to see on the screen is this:
Last Login: 13/08/2007 4:34:29 PM on vc/5
[ronnie@localhost ronnie]$where ronnie is the login name. After this, nothing happens. I don't see the Linux GUI & the programs I had selected during the installation process.
Can someone please tell me how do I get to see the Linux GUI with all the programs? Is the non-availability of CD2 & CD3 the cause of this?
Please note that during the installation process, the setup didn't generate any errors, of course, except for the 2 CDs goof-up.
Thanks,
Ron
A FEW DAYS BACK, I READ THAT SMOKING IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH. SINCE THEN I HAVE STOPPED..........READING!!

First, you do have a successful Linux installation because it boots up and you are able to log in. There are many instances where the GUI is not an essential part of a Linux installation (e.g: in a server environment).
More importantly, you have installed a very old release of Linux-Mandrake which is far past its end of life for security patch support. Linux-Mandrake (now Mandriva Linux) is released about two times a year. Since 8.2, 9.0, 9.1, 9.2, 10.0, 10.1, 10.2 (a.k.a. Mandriva Linux 2005LE), 2006, 2007.0, and 2007.1 (Spring) have been released.
If you are able, you should download and install the current release - Mandriva Linux 2007.1 (Spring). It is available as an iso image for an installation DVD, or a Live CD (Mandriva One).
To answer your question, I believe the missing 2nd and 3rd CDs may be why the GUI will not start (and may not be installed). To check, log in and run the following command:
startx
If the GUI software installed successfully, this command will start it. If the startx command is not found, or fails, you will need the other disks (or better still, get a newer release).
HTH,
Ernie Registered Linux User 247790
ICQ 41060744

Thanks, Ernie, for your response. I typed startx after logging in using my login name & password & this is what I was shown:
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xauth: creating new authority file /home/ronnie/.Xauthority
xauth: creating new authority file /home/ronnie/.Xauthorityexecve failed for /etc/X11/X (errno 2)
giving up.xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): Unable to connect to X server.
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error.[ronnie@localhost.ronnie]$
---------------You have also recommended me to get a newer release. If I am not mistaken, you are referring to Mandriva Linux 2007.1 (Spring).
Can it be downloaded from some site (I don't have any CD)? If yes, can you suggest any URLs from it can be downloaded?
Thanks once again for your suggestions,
Regards,
Ron
A FEW DAYS BACK, I READ THAT SMOKING IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH. SINCE THEN I HAVE STOPPED..........READING!!

Ernie, today I installed Debian 2.2 as well (& this time I had all the 3 CDs) but after installing it, I still don't get to see the GUI & the programs I chose to install during the setup process.
As in case of Mandrake, here too I am asked for login name & password & after entering the correct login & password, all I get to see is this:
----
ronnie@RONNIE:~$
----Moreover, during the setup process, I had said that I want Debian to load from the hard disk (& not from the boot floppy which I was told to create during installation) but if I boot from the hard disk, then WinXP starts automatically. Moreover unlike Mandrake, which used to give me 5 options to choose from including WinXP at start-up (as stated in my very first post), Debian doesn't even give me any such options.
Note that Debian starts only if I set the first booting device (in the BIOS) to Floppy with the boot floppy inside the floppy drive but, as already mentioned, above, I don't get to see the GUI after entering my login name & password.
Any idea what could be causing this & how do I make Debian display the GUI?
Thanks once again,
Regards,
Ron
A FEW DAYS BACK, I READ THAT SMOKING IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH. SINCE THEN I HAVE STOPPED..........READING!!

If I understand the situation correctly,
Debian has installed the Linux boot loader
on a floppy disk, not to the MBR. If you
want to get a menu at boot time from which
to select the OS to start, the boot loader
must be installed to the MBR.If you want to make learning Linux easier,
you could install a virtual machine and
install the various Linux distributions to
the vm. I use Virtual Box here to run
Windows XP under Mandriva Linux. There is a
version for Windows XP hosts as well, and Virtual Box is free for personal use.To be completely honest, if you decide to
try this, you will get better results if you
increase your system RAM to at least 1GB. I
have 512 MB RAM here, and Windows XP runs a
bit slow in the vm. More RAM will cure that
for me :).If you choose to stick with Debian installed to your hard drive, I believe Grub is the boot loader. I am unfamiliar with Grub so I will not be of much help with it. Perhaps some one else can help you get Grub installed to your MBR.
Good Luck,
Ernie Registered Linux User 247790
ICQ 41060744

Thanks once again for your suggestions, Ernie.
As you suggested, I went to the Virtual Box download page (at http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Down... but to be honest, couldn't determine which Virtual Box to download. Did you suggest installing ONLY Virtual Box or Virtual Box OSE?
If it's the former, then under the heading "VirtualBox binaries", there are several options. Which one should I go for? VirtualBox 1.4.0 for Windows Hosts?
Also you have said that you use Virtual Box to run Windows XP under Mandriva Linux. What do you mean by that? Does your machine give you the option of the 2 OS's (WinXP & Mandriva) when your machine boots so that you can select which OS you would want to log into?
Right now, I am downloading Mandriva (whose size is a woeful 4.3GB) using BitTorrent. What do I do after that? Just open the torrent file in WinXP after the download finishes? Moreover, BitTorrent says that it will take about 25 days to complete the download! Will it indeed take so many days to download Mandriva (my Internet speed is somewhere between 9-10kbps practically but BitTorrent indicates that the "Down rate" is 2-3kbps)?
Lastly now that I have decided to adhere to your suggestion of installing Mandriva, how do I uninstall Mandrake & Debian? Will just deleting the partitions from the WinXP Disk Management (right-click My Computer-->Manage-->Disk Management) automatically uninstall Mandrake & Debian (the partitions were created during the installation setup)?
You might find some of my queries childish since my knowledge in Linux is highly limited. This is the first time I am trying to use Linux. So please excuse me for the childish questions.
Thanks once again,
Regards,
Ron
A FEW DAYS BACK, I READ THAT SMOKING IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH. SINCE THEN I HAVE STOPPED..........READING!!

If you have a fast computer (1.5 Ghz or better) with enough memory (1 GB RAM or more), enough video RAM (at least 64 MB), and enough hard disk space (10 GB or more), you can install VirtualBox in Windows, then install Linux in a VirtualBox vm. When you want to run Linux, you simply start VirtualBox and direct it to start Linux. For this, you would install VirtualBox 1.4.0 for Windows Hosts.
VirtualBox is a program that lets you create a virtual computer (a computer simulation). To do this, you configure VirtualBox (in a wizard) to make a virtual computer to run Linux. You tell it how much of your real computer's physical and video RAM the vm should use, and how large the virtual hard drive should be. The virtual hard drive will exist in a file on your real hard drive, and can be dynamic (will occupy space used up to the allocated limit) or fixed (will fully
occupy the allocated space) in size.Using a virtual machine is not a dual boot. When you start Linux, Windows will be running. You can run Linux in a window on your desktop, or you can switch to a full screen mode. The advantage is that you can try out Linux and see if you think it is worth the bother without any risk to your
Windows installation or your existing system configuration. The main drawbacks are that you share your system resources with the vm so it will not run as fast as if it was the only OS running.Mandriva Linux is my everyday production OS. I have a small technical support side business here supporting Windows users. When I first started using linux (about 1998), I ran a dual boot configuration. Live CDs were not yet available and vm's were not practical. By the time Live CDs became popular, I had already made the move to
Mandriva Linux as my primary production OS. When I found VirtualBox, I decided to put Windows in a vm to avoid the need to reboot when I had to use Windows in my work.I did not know your Internet connection speed was limited, but I should have considered that possibility. Downloading with BitTorrent will be slow on such a connection. Does your local library have a fast Internet connection (or perhaps a friend)? You would do better to get the
Mandriva One CD image (an .iso file) rather than the DVD installation image because it will be much smaller (about 700MB for the CD image vs. more than 4GB for the DVD image). IIRC, the Mandriva One image is named mandriva-linux-2007-spring-one-KDE-cdrom-i586.iso
and can be downloaded from any Mandriva ftp mirror. I use this mirror here.As for uninstalling Mandrake 8.x or Debian, did you install Debian in new partition(s) or to the same one(s) you used for Mandrake 8? If the Debian installation used the existing Linux partitions, Mandrake 8 has been overwritten by Debian and when you install Mandriva you should be able to use the existing Linux partitions again so Mandriva will overwrite Debian. If you
installed Debian in its own partition(s) (along side Mandrake), then you should delete any Linux partitions before installing Mandriva, then install Mandriva in the empty space.The Mandriva One CD is a Live CD so you can boot from the CD to Mandriva Linux without installation, then run MCC > Mount Points > Create, Delete and resize hard disk partitions to remove the Linux partitions. After the partitions have been removed you can start the installer to put Mandriva on your hard disk.
If you decide to put Mandriva in a VirtualBox vm, you can simply remove the Linux partitions from your hard drive using MCC on the Live CD, then either resize your Windows partition to fill the drive, or create a new Windows partition in the space the Linux partition(s) used to occupy.
If you decide to install Mandriva Linux as a dual boot to your hard drive, simply boot your computer from the Mandriva One Live CD, use MCC to remove Linux partitions if needed, then install Mandriva using the live install icon on the desktop.
HTH,
Ernie Registered Linux User 247790
ICQ 41060744

Thanks a lot Ernie for all the suggestions.
The mirror site you have stated to download Mandriva has got a list of files. Do I have to download all those files, then burn them in a CD & finally use the CD to install Mandriva? If that's the case, is this newly burnt CD which you're referring as Mandriva One CD (Live CD)?
As far as the hard disk partitions are concerned, Mandrake & Debian installations created 3 extra partitions (I guess Mandrake created 1 & Debian created the other 2 though I am not 100% sure about it).
I feel deleting the 3 partitions manually will be the best option for me but if I do so, will the hard disk space occupied by the 3 partitions automatically get allotted to the other 4 existing (Windows) partitions? For e.g. among the 3 partitions created by Mandrake & Debian, partition 1 occupies 706MB, partition 2 occupies 141MB & partition 3 occupies 557MB hard disk space. If I delete these 3 partitions, will 706+141+557=1404MB get allotted to the 4 (Windows) partitions? Or should I convert these 3 partitions into 3 Logical Drives (Windows partitions) by assigning them 3 different drive letters? I would prefer the former.
BTW, I am working on a P4 2.8GHz, 512MB RAM & 80GB hard disk machine.
Thanks once again for all your help,
Regards,
Ron
A FEW DAYS BACK, I READ THAT SMOKING IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH. SINCE THEN I HAVE STOPPED..........READING!!

If you choose to use VirtualBox to run Linux in Windows, I suggest you install another 512 MB RAM or the vm will run a bit slowly.
The link I provided is to the 2007.1 iso directory on a Mandriva mirror. The only file you need to download is named:
mandriva-linux-2007-spring-one-KDE-cdrom-i586.iso.
You may also want to download this file:
mandriva-linux-2007-spring-one-KDE-cdrom-i586.iso.md5.
It contains an md5sum value you can use to be sure the file you download is not corrupt. To get the actual md5sum of the file you download you should get an md5sum program for Windows and compare the md5sum value generated for the iso image file with the value in the md5 file.If you have three new partitions, then Debian overwrote Mandrake 8. If you choose to install Mandriva directly to the hard drive, it will use these partitions and overwrite Debian.
If you decide to remove these three partitions and install Mandriva in VirtualBox, you will have to resize your Windows partitions your self. Removing the Linux partitions will not automatically do that for you. Your last post indicates you have four Windows partitions. Be careful to only resize the last three. The first partition will be your Windows C partition, and it does not always take well to being resized. Changing the Windows C partition can cause the system to not boot, and then that is a lot of extra bother you do not need.
Other than the amount of RAM, your system sounds as if it will run a vm very well, but since you already have the Linux partitions set up you may be best advised to install Mandriva to the hard disk and avoid making any more changes in your hard drive configuration. The Mandriva installer will detect your Windows installation and set up the dual boot for you.
HTH,
Ernie Registered Linux User 247790
ICQ 41060744

Ernie, you have suggested to download mandriva-linux-2007-spring-one-KDE-cdrom-i586.iso which is what I am doing currently but what do I do AFTER the download ends? Do I have to burn the ISO file to a CD & then boot my machine using that CD to install Mandriva so that, after installing Mandriva, my machine gives me the dual boot option at start-up?
Likewise, what do I do with the Mandriva ISO file after the download finishes if I want to install Mandriva in the virtual machine? In other words, how do I start the Mandriva installation setup to install Mandriva in the virtual machine?
I have already installed VirtualBox 1.4 for Windows & have also created a new virtual machine using VirtualBox. As the Mandriva download will take considerable time to download completely, in the meantime, I want to install Debian 2.2 in the virtual machine (I already have the 3 Debian CDs) but when I insert the 1st Debian CD in the CD-RW drive, then I am not given any option to install Debian. How do I install Debian 2.2 in the virtual machine under such circustances (usually when installing an application from a CD in Windows, the CD auto-starts giving the user option to install the app along with, maybe, other options like Exit or ReadMe)?
Thanks,
Regards,
Ron
A FEW DAYS BACK, I READ THAT SMOKING IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH. SINCE THEN I HAVE STOPPED..........READING!!

To install Debian in VirtualBox, put the Debian CD in the drive then tell VirtualBox to mount the physical CD drive before you start the vm. To change the CD, unmount the CD drive (ALT+Click the CD icon near the bottom of the window), change the disk, then mount the drive again using the icon near the bottom of the window as you did to unmount it.
If you want to install Mandriva to your hard drive, you will have to burn the image to a CD.
If you want to install Mandriva in VirtualBox, select the CD image option then navigate to the Mandriva image to tell VirtualBox which image to
use. VirtualBox will access the CD image as if it were a CD drive (only faster).HTH,
Ernie Registered Linux User 247790
ICQ 41060744

That's how I tried installing Debian in VM but I don't know why, the installation setup gets aborted immediately after a few seconds with the following message:
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Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00
----------Any idea what could be causing this problem & how do I overcome it?
I didn't encounter any such problem when I installed Debian on my hard disk. I allotted 128MB RAM & 3.5GB hard disk to this VM (which are more than or equal to the minimum requirements that are needed for installing Debian).
Ron
A FEW DAYS BACK, I READ THAT SMOKING IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH. SINCE THEN I HAVE STOPPED..........READING!!

Ernie, I have successfully downloaded the 693MB Mandriva ISO file which you suggested & even burnt it in a CD as it is but am facing hiccups while trying to install it on my hard drive (so that my machine gives me the dual boot option).
In the BIOS I changed the First Boot Device to CDROM to install Mandriva from the CD. The installation setup initially checks for hardware & partition settings (that it does successfully) & then shows the following:
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Using DPMS DOS Protected Mode Services.Cache size: 7670 KB (XMS)
Minimum cache size: 1024 KB
Write-through drives: A BCurrent options:
/MLX Program is loaded into conventional and XMS memory using DPMS
/BL=16 Lookahead buffer is in conventional memory, size is in KB
/LEND=ON Lend memory to other applications - 6646 KB available
/DELAY=OFF Write delay is disabled, caching is write-through
---------------After this, the installation stops at the 'A' prompt like this:
---------------
[DR-DOS] A:\>
---------------with the cursor blinking. When I type any of the above 4 options & press the <Enter> key on the keyboard, all I am told is "Command or filename not recognized". The installation setup doesn't proceed further (it doesn't terminate either).
What command am I supposed to enter at the A: prompt so that the Mandriva installation setup proceeds?
Please help me out.
Ron
A FEW DAYS BACK, I READ THAT SMOKING IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH. SINCE THEN I HAVE STOPPED..........READING!!

Ernie, I could successfully use Mandriva (with the orange wallpaper) in the VirtualBox virtual machine (using the ISO file on the hard disk & not the one which is in the CD) without being asked for anything unlike when I tried to install it on the hard drive. But if I use the ISO file which is in the CD, then I face the same problem which I faced when I tried to install Mandriva in the hard drive.
Please give me a concrete solution to install Mandriva on my hard drive since, as you had already pointed out, Mandriva does run slowly with just 128 MB RAM.
A FEW DAYS BACK, I READ THAT SMOKING IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH. SINCE THEN I HAVE STOPPED..........READING!!

Sorry, Ernie, for disturbing you again & again with my posts but please bear with me.
I guess you missed one important point - the Mandriva ISO file has to be burnt as a DISC IMAGE (according to Nero 6.0) & NOT as a DATA DISC. The root of the burnt CD (that is the CD drive itself) doesn't have any ISO file after burning; rather it has 2 PDF files & 3 directories. I learnt this from one of the Linux forums. Now I could view the Mandriva GUI using the CD but problems still exist.
After successfully booting from the CD, I was told to select the language, country, keyboard, set the time etc. but Mandriva didn't install itself on the hard drive though I was given the following kernel options:
---------------
noapic
nolapic
acpi=off
acpi=ht
pci=nomsi
pci=nommconf
reboot=b
---------------But since I didn't have any idea what these kernel options would do I didn't select any of the above options. Will selecting one of the above kernel options install Mandriva on the hard disk & give me dual boot option of WinXP & Mandriva when my machine starts?
If yes, then which kernel option should I select? If no, then it means that if I want to use Mandriva, I have to always boot from CD & after the booting completes, each & every time I have to select the language, country, keyboard, set the time etc. This will be too monotonous!
Please guide on how do I install Mandriva on my hard disk so that I can get the dual boot option. Note that prior to giving me the above options, Mandriva showed me the following:
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Boot options initrd=/boot/cdrom/initrd.gz fastboot splash=silent vga=788
---------------Another problem is configuring my Internet connection in Mandriva. When I wanted to set my Internet connection (for which I use LAN in WinXP), I found that both Mozilla FireFox & the in-built web browser named Konqueror had only proxy server settings to connect to the Net but WinXP doesn't use proxy server to connect to the Net. Instead it uses IP address, Default Gateway, DNS Server etc. to configure Net connnection. Since Mandriva doesn't have these WinXP options, how do I configure Net connection in Mandriva so that Mandriva can connect to the Internet?
Ron
A FEW DAYS BACK, I READ THAT SMOKING IS INJURIOUS TO HEALTH. SINCE THEN I HAVE STOPPED..........READING!!

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