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Certifications ?? which one

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Name: Rick
Date: October 9, 2002 at 11:09:52 Pacific
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Does anyone have/want a Linux certifitation? Which one of the 3, (that I've found so far), would be the best one to try for? Not to have but to learn the most for Linux admin purposes?



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Response Number 1
Name: Tammy
Date: October 9, 2002 at 11:15:20 Pacific
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You need experience and problem solving skills in business. All those certificates don't mean much. They show your record of learning, and that is. No more.

To get start with, go for the RHCE.


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Response Number 2
Name: Rick
Date: October 9, 2002 at 11:22:58 Pacific
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Why would the Red Hat one be better than one of the supposed "indpendant distrubition" of Sair, or Linux Professional, or BrainBench certifications.

The reason I'm asking is to learn to admin some web servers, (using SuSe 8.0), not to get certified for the sake of doing it, and taking a cert class is about the only kind of class it seems is being offered on Linux.


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Response Number 3
Name: Richard
Date: October 9, 2002 at 11:54:21 Pacific
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Just roll up your sleeves and install it on your home pc. Don't use windows for a month, do everything on Linux, read up when you don't know how to do something and after that month you'll know far more than after any certification classes.

I say to read up, rather than asking on a forum such as this, because in doing so you will find the answers to many more problems than just the one you have at that moment.

And it doesn't matter what you read: a book from the library, the install manual for your distro, pages from the web or even usenet.

Just get stuck in and learn! At the end of the day certification is just a marketing ploy, if you want to do something you are more than capable of doing it on your own!


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Response Number 4
Name: Rick
Date: October 9, 2002 at 12:12:23 Pacific
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The only problem I have at the moment is paying a consultant to do simple tasks on a Linux web server.

After being a MS systems admin for 10 to 12 hours a day the LAST thing I want to do is go home ignore the wife and kids to do even more work on a puter.

Just do not have the time for trial and error learning, need a structured class. (Besides the company is willing to pay for it.)

The only classes offered around here seem to be geared to some kind of cert., hence my question, which "brand" of cert would be better to go for to really learn to admin Linux.

So far I've found 4 or 5 different company's or orgnizations that claim independant certification.


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Response Number 5
Name: boojum
Date: October 9, 2002 at 13:21:23 Pacific
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If you do decide to go for the RHCE be prepared for a lot of work. It's a difficult certification with a pretty high first time failure rate. It doesn't sound like you need a top tier cert for Linux anyway since you primarily deal with Windows. For your purposes CompTIA Linux + certification would be something to consider. It's an "independent" kind and won't require nearly the time and effort as RHCE.


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Response Number 6
Name: boojum
Date: October 9, 2002 at 13:30:52 Pacific
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on a side note, Linux + will give you a basic working knowledge of the linux platform but it won't give you the structured learning method you want or a lot of depth. It sounds like the LPI certification may be more appropriate. This is a pretty well recognized cert as Linux certs go. Goes into a lot more depth than Linux + and is also distro independent.


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Response Number 7
Name: Rick
Date: October 9, 2002 at 13:44:44 Pacific
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Thanks boojum, just the kind of info I was hoping to find. :-)

btw, I have a friend that has the nick name of boojum, small world huh? :-))



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Response Number 8
Name: Tero
Date: October 9, 2002 at 13:44:55 Pacific
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Which distro does Linux+ focus on? RedHat?

Do you know of any places that have practice exams for any of the above certs?

I hate certifications, but at least employers can see that you know enough to pass the exams. True skill comes from passion, experience and natural ability that most employers overlook for bigger degrees and certifications.

T


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Response Number 9
Name: lmbuldak
Date: October 9, 2002 at 14:53:31 Pacific
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Yeah, I'm kinda in the same boat 'cept my experience is with programming mainframes. Goin' for A+, Network+, Server+, MCP, MCSA and Solaris 8 currently. Good I'll have plenty of time to lollygag and e-mail. I'd like to get a LCA in there too. Around here (Chicago) try getting a job without a couple of certifications. BA in CS and prior programming experience don't count much.... At least they get you in the door for an interview, eh?


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Response Number 10
Name: frontside360
Date: October 9, 2002 at 17:20:27 Pacific
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Rick, I was in a similar situation, knew linux a little but wanted in-depth knowledge.
I chose the LCA course (SAIR/GNU), it covers 4 areas:
1. Install & Config-- all the basics, partitioning, kernel compiling etc.
2. Systems Admin-- shell scripting, automating, cron scheduling, users - rights -permissions blah blah
3. Networking - setting up DHCP, DNS (BIND), NIS/NFS, Samba, Apache etc.
4. Security - covers IP chains/tables, tripwire, nmap etc.
--- I just finished the course a week ago, took 1 of 4 exams (passed). My goal was NOT cert, but exerience. At work I have already setup 2 Linux dhcp & dns servers to replace existing windows boxes, an Apache server, and working on an IDS. So you're right, the course will be a catalyst for learning.


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Response Number 11
Name: hello
Date: October 10, 2002 at 00:44:14 Pacific
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look at following URL for discussion of various certifications:

http://linuxcertified.com/certification_process.html


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