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Yet another CPU temp question

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Name: RLP
Date: February 22, 2005 at 22:09:15 Pacific
OS: win xp pro
CPU/Ram: Pentium 4 2.8 ghtz/512mg
Comment:

I am concerned about the temperature of my CPU. I don't play games or do anything more intensive than graphic editing or watching a dvd, but I have an old case which is not really approved for this CPU according to material on Intel web site(P4 2.8 ghtz).(Doesn't have side or front vents.)

The monitoring programs I have been running say the cpu temp is about 51c when idle, going up to 56c or 58c when I try to play a dvd and an mp3 and open photoshop and my scanning program and a spyware scanning program. (I don't do all these things at once in real life.)

I understand the P4 will shut off before it is allowed to fry, but I am concerned that running hotter than optimal will cause a shorter life span as I've read that even a few degrees can make a big difference in the life of the CPU.

Should I:

a: buy a new case
b: buy a slot fan for the rear bottom of the chassis
c: buy a drive bay fan
d: get a life and find something else to worry about
e: other

Thanks for any suggestions.

Roberta



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Response Number 1
Name: Richard59
Date: February 22, 2005 at 22:56:43 Pacific
Reply:

Anything to improve airflow. I run a P4 2.8 and have stock retail heatsink/fan. plus an extra casefan at the rear, in a well ventilated case. Runs at 25 degC idle and no higher than 35 under load. If that means replacing your case then do it. Of course your ambient temps will have some effect and ventilation around the case as well. Try the "static" options first and if still concerned then investigate extra fans, drivebay coolers etc but you should be able to achieve a good result without to much extra fan noise/powerdrain

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach him to fish and his wife will never forgive you.


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Response Number 2
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: February 22, 2005 at 23:24:08 Pacific
Reply:

Or just take the side off your PC... ;-)

Are there any unfilled spots for case fans? I'd fill those with fans. Lower front fans should be intake, while higher and rear fans should be exhaust.

"...but in my defense, it was dark, I was drunk, and it was delicious!"


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Response Number 3
Name: wizard-fred
Date: February 23, 2005 at 02:06:38 Pacific
Reply:

I wish you guys would give your ambient or room temperature when you give your motherboard and cpu temperatures and your idle and load temperatures. I don't have airconditioning and and my room temp is about 30C. and with the sun shining on the case about 2 or 3 more. My idle temp is usually just under 50C, motherboard 34C. This is a minitower with one additional intake fan at the bottom front. Celeron 466MHz Temps from BIOS.

I think Roberta temps are fine.


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Response Number 4
Name: RLP
Date: February 23, 2005 at 05:34:53 Pacific
Reply:

The room temp is probably around 22c this time of year (winter) as the heat really pumps. (Rental building - we don't control it.)
In summer it may go up to 32c but I do have an AC in here which I could run at all times when running the computer.

Unfortunately these are no spaces for case fans. This is a cheap older case. That's why I thought maybe a slot fan might be in order. Of course it would be towards the bottom, but it would also be in back, so I wouldn't get the ideal front to back airflow going.

I guess the question is whether additional cooling would lengthen the life of my CPU and whether the slot fan would cause additional cooling.


Roberta


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Response Number 5
Name: Pilot
Date: February 23, 2005 at 05:35:56 Pacific
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My overclocked P4 (1.6 -> 2.1) is currently running at 29C at which it normally idles. Room temp is 22C (normal here). The P4 gets up to 53C with heavy floating point use, such as games like Quake or a torture test. It's an older case, the one I used for my 533 P3, with a retail CPU fan, one rear case fan and front and side vents. So I think Roberta's temps are a little high and a better ventilated case should fix things.

Bryan


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Response Number 6
Name: Lobster Boy
Date: February 23, 2005 at 06:32:46 Pacific
Reply:

Your processor is designed to take advantage of the modern ATX form factor,(and cases) plenty of cooling is essential and is inherent in the form factor, which places the processor to the back and close to the case vents.

If you can,use a high quality case with a high quality fan with ball bearings.


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Response Number 7
Name: RLP
Date: February 23, 2005 at 08:09:38 Pacific
Reply:

I did replace the power supply. I think it's a very good one with a good exhaust fan.

It sounds like a new case might be in order. A friend suggested drilling some holes in the removable side panel of this one.

Basically the consnsus I am getting is that I should try to get the temperature down if I want the CPU to live as long as possible.

Thanks everyone.

Roberta


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Response Number 8
Name: ron
Date: February 23, 2005 at 12:31:43 Pacific
Reply:

As long as the cpu stays within 64c barrier it's ok . pentiums are thermally protected & will just slow up if they are getting within a temp range that is not favourable


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Response Number 9
Name: setishock
Date: February 23, 2005 at 16:26:17 Pacific
Reply:

Motherboard> 11c/52f
CPU> 29c/84f
ATA pci card drives>
Drive 0> 12c/54f
Drive 1> 12c/54f
IDE channel 0 drive> 12c/54f
CPU fan speed> 2482rpm
Ambient at intake> 62.6f
Exhaust(rear fan output)> 66.1f
Now that's cold.
As for the fans you really need to shop around for an inexpensive case. One fan at the least in the front and at least one in the back. Two is really better but a good cfm fan will do just fine.


I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid...


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Response Number 10
Name: Jimi_l
Date: February 23, 2005 at 18:18:37 Pacific
Reply:

I choose "D"

Jimi_l


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Response Number 11
Name: RLP
Date: February 24, 2005 at 07:32:15 Pacific
Reply:

I am going to start by drilling holes in the side of this case and I also ordered a large slot fan. I will post back in several days and let you know if this helps. If not I guess I will buy a new case.

Thanks again everybody!

Roberta


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Response Number 12
Name: RLP
Date: February 28, 2005 at 06:11:50 Pacific
Reply:

Here's an update. Don't know if anyone is interested but perhaps this will be of use to future readers with similar problems who stumble across this post via Google.

I had the computer sitting on the shelf next to the monitor because the tower wouldn't fit on the bottom shelf of the computer cabinet. I started thinking maybe the heat from the monitor was a bad thing (duh!), plus I know lower is cooler since heat rises, so I put the case on the floor next to the computer cabinet. Then I drilled holes in the side of the case over where the CPU would be (after removing the side first of course!). I've also ordered a slot fan but that hasn't arrived yet.

Immediately the idle temp is hovering between 39c and 42c, an improvement of around 10c! And I didn't spend any money (except for the $7 slot fan I have yet to put in.)

Roberta


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