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Name: Tim_B
Date: March 1, 2008 at 12:44:49 Pacific
OS: XPPro upgrade 2002
CPU/Ram: AMD Athlon 2.3 Ghz \ 1Gb
Product: PC Chips P4mobo
Comment:

I'm re-installing win xp pro. I have a 320Gb In installation it either detects no drive, or only one of my three partitions,depending on jumper settings. (I only have 3 jumper options) The partition it detects is not the one I want to set up XP on. I'vegone into BIOS and attempted to specify installing a 3rd part raid,but XP by default searches only my A (floppy) drive.My mobo drivers are on CD. I'm not sure I'mheading doen the right path with this. Any help appreciated.
Thx



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Response Number 1
Name: Tim_B
Date: March 1, 2008 at 12:46:48 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry,that should read "I have a 320 Gb SATA HDD."


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Response Number 2
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 1, 2008 at 13:21:59 Pacific
Reply:

You need to copy the SATA/RAID drivers to a floppy disk. When WinXP asks if you have any third party drivers to install press F6, do that. Do not remove the floppy until instructed to.

Does your WinXP CD have at least SP1 on it?

Is the SATA drive identified by model in the startup screens? If not then you have something configured wrong.

If your MBoard SATA controllers are SATA I you may need to jumper to slow to SATA I speeds. The other jumper option should be ignored. SATA drives are all Masters by default. Did you move where the SATA drive was connected or change any settings in the BIOS?


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Response Number 3
Name: Tim_B
Date: March 1, 2008 at 14:24:29 Pacific
Reply:

I have a Win XP Home disc and a Win XP Pro. I want to install the XP Pro. It doesn't have SP1. Both install disks are 'upgrades' (I have a win 98 se disc that I verify with). However, the XP Home install CD has SP1. Could I start the install with the XP Home and then switch to the XP Pro, say after I reformat the partition I am installing to, provided of course that it is recognized?

Right now the XP Home CD is installed,with all current updates and it shows all three partitions on the SATA drive.It is only as I'm re-installing that it doesn't show up.

Yes the SATA drive does show up on my start up screen. (By the way,is there any way to pause the start up screen as it flys by so fast)It shows up as 'IDE Channel 3 Master' with nothing showing up in IDE channel's 0 Master or Slave. (I have no other HDD installed - IDE or SATA)
I'm assumning that if it is master by default, w\o a jumper it would default to master? Annoyingly,the supporting documentation supplied by seagate - and on their website for that model - shows a different pin setup than is physically on my HDD. On the HDD itself, all it shows is that no jumper provides a faster speed 3Gb\s transfer rate. I have been previously using it at the slower 1.5 Gb\s jumper setting with no apparent problem. My mobo documentation says 'Serial ATA: Transfer rate exceeding best ATA (approx 150 Mb\s) with scalability to higher rates.

In my BIOS, if I go to Integrated peripherals > VIA OnChip IDE Device, it offers me two SATA Menus: OnChip SATA and SATA Mode. under OnChip SATA it has two choices - enabled or disabled. Under SATA Mode, it offers IDE or RAID. Previous I have been using IDE. Makes sense as it shows up under IDE on start up. However, when XP goes to install it only shows the one partition undre IDE mode. If I use the RAID option in BIOS,I'm back to the problem of loading drivers. On My Mobo CD disk, when I go through the menu I get choices for RAID drivers of winxp or x64. I need to know which one ot transfer to the floppy to try and manually load the drivers. Which one is it?


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: March 1, 2008 at 15:02:19 Pacific
Reply:

What you could do is use a program such as nLite to create a customized XP CD with either SP1 or SP2 slipstreamed into it.

http://www.nliteos.com/download.html

And if you don't already have it installed, you'll need .NET Framework...it's available at the above site.


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Response Number 5
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 1, 2008 at 15:14:03 Pacific
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If you have the harddrive partitioned with a boot partition of less than 127GB you don't need to worry about 48bit LBA. However that is probably why your other partitions are not showing. Ifyou MUST install to a partition that is larger than 127GB then you need to slipstream SP2 into the CD. You can also slipstream the SATA drivers while you are at it.

What is on the first partition of this drive right now? I'm not sure if you can even install WinXP to an extended partition or not.

Describe what you are trying to do in more detail and then we can better assist you.


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Response Number 6
Name: Tim_B
Date: March 1, 2008 at 16:25:40 Pacific
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I'm trying to install win xp pro onto a 320 Gb SATA hard drive that has 3 partitions. Right now Win XP Home is loaded on the drive. The OS files are on a 47 Gb partition. The other partitions are 114 and 136 Gb, with 8 Gb unallocated. I've tried various configurations between the BIOS and jumpers and the best that I can get is for the install to recognize one 131 Gb partition (or nothing at all). Strange thing is that it shows the 131 Gb partition as having all free disk space. The closest to that of course is the 136 Gb partition and it has 55 Gb worth of multimedia files on it. (Yes I'm backed up) So I'm using the BIOS\jumper settings that have allowed me to run Win XP home which is installed on the disk. Originally I installed XP Home onto the freshly formatted (NTFS) 320 Gb disk, and then used partition magic 8 to make the three partitions. From the sounds o fit, I may have to eliminate the partitions and start fresh again. Hopefully this is a little more clear.


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Response Number 7
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 1, 2008 at 16:47:57 Pacific
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Before proceeding further boot to WinXP home and go to Disk Management. See what type of partitions you have. If all basic then you are OK. If dynamic you will need to start over. You don't need to use PM to partition the drive. There are lots of lays to do it. First state what you want to end up with.

Do you want to keep WinXP home? If so, just install WinXP pro from within WinXP home. Just boot up from the CD while in WinXP home. You will then be able to install to either of the other two partitions and you will end up with a dual boot menu at startup.


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Response Number 8
Name: Tim_B
Date: March 1, 2008 at 16:58:26 Pacific
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According to Disk Management, all of the disks are basic and healthy.
I wanted to end up with just Win XP Pro. However, If the easiest method is to install\boot from within XP Home, and have a dual boot, I'll do that. It never ocurred to me\I didn't know, that I could do that. My preference though is to just have XP Pro.


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Response Number 9
Name: Tim_B
Date: March 1, 2008 at 17:18:28 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry OTH, that is XP Pro on the existing 47 Gb partition,and leave the other two partitions as is


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Response Number 10
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 1, 2008 at 17:19:16 Pacific
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Then what you do is boot into WinXP home. Download nLite and SP2. Read the instructions for nLite and make a bootable slipstreamed CD with SP2 and the SATA drivers. Test it by booting to it. You can back out if it boots OK. Then go back to WinXP home and backup your WinXP home personal files. Reboot to the WinXP pro CD and install to the 47GB partition. Be sure to format it. The other two partitions should stay as they are.

You can also insclude the post SP2 updates using nLite if you wish. However, you will still need to download them so why bother right now. You may eventually want to incorporate them into the slipstream. Find SP2 downloadable at the link below. You may need to install WGA before you can download SP2.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/do...


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Response Number 11
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 1, 2008 at 17:25:29 Pacific
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It just occured to me. You should be installing WinXP to the primary partition on the disk. That is where home is now installed isn't it? Just replace WinXP home with pro and you don't need to slipstream. If pro won't allow you to install to that partition then get a third party utility to format the 47GB partition. You will then be able to install WinXP pro to it. After you apply SP2 to pro you will then be able to see the other partitions.


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Response Number 12
Name: Tim_B
Date: March 1, 2008 at 17:26:12 Pacific
Reply:

OK 'll give it a shot and let you know. I was already looking into slipstreaming from another post.


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Response Number 13
Name: Tim_B
Date: March 1, 2008 at 17:40:51 Pacific
Reply:

Yes XP home is on the 47Gb - the primary. I had considered something along the lines of what you're saying. This is my original problem.Installing XP Pro it won't recognize the 47Gb partition. In order to partition or format with a 3rd party utility,I need access to the disk. I would need to access it from another OS,which I don't have installed. I can't install over topof the OS I'mworking off of,can I? AtleastI don't think I can. I'm in the process of making the Slipstream CD integrated w\drivers. So I'llcheck that out.


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