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Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 07:49:35 Pacific
OS: Windows Vista
Subcategory: General
Comment:

Ok when i installed my graphics card i plugged it in then i went to turn on my computer after a few seconds it shutdown happend everytime i now have too k out my graphics card to ask why is it doing this? Is it somthing to do with the power supply?



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Response Number 1
Name: kx5m2g
Date: July 16, 2009 at 07:58:12 Pacific
Reply:

The only information you gave was about the operating system. Can you tell us more about the graphics card-PCI, PCI-E, AGP, specific model ? Can you tell us more about your computer ? How can we tell if it might be the psu if we know nothing about the psu ?


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Response Number 2
Name: Supertrucker
Date: July 16, 2009 at 08:20:23 Pacific
Reply:

Kx5m2g look at the ops previous posts. Bet he didn't listen to jam on the psu.

WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.


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Response Number 3
Name: kx5m2g
Date: July 16, 2009 at 08:46:09 Pacific
Reply:

OK-now I remember the OP.


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: July 16, 2009 at 09:09:42 Pacific
Reply:

"Is it somthing to do with the power supply?"

"Bet he didn't listen to jam on the psu"

uh huh!


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Response Number 5
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 09:15:54 Pacific
Reply:

lol sorry so is it the PSU?


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Response Number 6
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 09:43:24 Pacific
Reply:

So is it the PSU i need to replace then?


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Response Number 7
Name: Chris C
Date: July 16, 2009 at 09:50:41 Pacific
Reply:

tom BEFORE you buy ANY card READ the side of the box for the specs that the card NEEDS to run CORRECTLY PSU Watts, amps on the +12V rail GOT IT???


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Response Number 8
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 09:59:21 Pacific
Reply:

k ill read the side of the box


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Response Number 9
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 10:02:58 Pacific
Reply:

it says min 400W or greater system power supply (with 12v current rating of 26a


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Response Number 10
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 10:03:58 Pacific
Reply:

i miss read mine its 300W (12v 5v 3.3v) so im gessing it means i need a new PSU


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Response Number 11
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 10:05:40 Pacific
Reply:

let me re-write that ok my PSU 300W (12v 5v 3.3v) minimun for graphics card 400W or greater system power supply (with 12v current rating of 26a)

So does this mean i need a new PSU (power supply?)


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Response Number 12
Name: jam
Date: July 16, 2009 at 10:07:18 Pacific
Reply:

How many times do you have to be told? Here's a few lines from your other threads:

Skip: "you'd best have a damn good power supply"

jam: "if your power supply is too weak & you install a card like the 9800GT, your whole system is gonna come crashing down"

Skip: "wait until you post back saying the system won't boot"

And the winner is...........Skip!


"wait until you post back saying the system won't boot"


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Response Number 13
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 10:16:05 Pacific
Reply:

ok sorry, im gonna buy a new psu then im sorry i didnt listen but i missunderstood the psu lable, im sorry Thankyou for your help, does anyone have any recommended PSU's i should get?


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Response Number 14
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 10:24:35 Pacific
Reply:

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st... how about that?


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Response Number 15
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 10:33:49 Pacific

Response Number 16
Name: Supertrucker
Date: July 16, 2009 at 10:59:00 Pacific
Reply:

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produ...

WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.


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Response Number 17
Name: Supertrucker
Date: July 16, 2009 at 11:15:43 Pacific
Reply:

As jam and others tried to tell you before don't skimp on a psu. Wattage matters but so does amperage. Don't buy off brand psus. Ex I bought an antec psu years ago. That psu is in its 2nd computer and runnin strong. The cheapy was $15 less!

WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.


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Response Number 18
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 11:33:06 Pacific
Reply:

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st... is that alright to use ?


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Response Number 19
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 12:15:20 Pacific
Reply:

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st... is that alright to use ?


Is that alright to use to power my computer ect


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Response Number 20
Name: jam
Date: July 16, 2009 at 12:19:41 Pacific
Reply:

"is that alright to use ?"

None of those units have the specs listed. You've been told several times what to look for & even quoted the video card box yourself: "min 400W or greater system power supply with 12v current rating of 26a"

Look at the PSUs that you posted again....where does it list how many amps are on the +12v rail? All it states is wattage & "Dual 12v Rails". Actually, it would be best to avoid units that have multiple +12v rails & get one that has a single +12v rail with high amperage.

And notice that 400W is the MINIMUM...do you really want to take a chance & just get the 405W PSU?

You really need to take the time to learn about PSUs. We (myself & others) have tried to explain to you how important it is to have a good PSU & Skip nailed it on the head when he wrote that you'd be posting about your system not being able to boot with the new card installed. So much for your friend who told you your current PSU would be OK, huh?

I realize you can't buy from newegg but here's an example of what to look for...notice the specs:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Take the time to do some reading:

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psura...

http://www.pcpower.com/technology/m...

http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolin...


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Response Number 21
Name: najitech
Date: July 16, 2009 at 12:24:52 Pacific
Reply:

The PSU you listed shows "dual 12-volt rails," but, unless I've overlooked it, doesn't give any info about the amperage for the 12V rails. I would recommend checking out the many power supplies listed at www.newegg.com ... there you will not only get the full specs for each unit, but can read a lot of helpful reviews by people who have actually purchased the units.

1 Corinthians 15:3-4


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Response Number 22
Name: najitech
Date: July 16, 2009 at 12:36:31 Pacific
Reply:

jam, looks like your post beat mine ... well, the repetition of the info might help to reinforce the point for tom.

1 Corinthians 15:3-4


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Response Number 23
Name: tom4433
Date: July 16, 2009 at 12:58:29 Pacific
Reply:

# 600 Watts output
# Advanced cable management
# Support both 20pin and ATX12V 2.0 24pin motherboards.
# 20+4 main connector -- 20-pin and 24-pin dual use main connector
# All cables sleeved for easy management and optimum air flow
# Dual S-ATA power connector included.
# Active Power Factor Correction (PFC)
# 120mm high quality ball bearing fan design
# Automatic fan speed control (A.F.C) or smart fan
# Easy Connect Peripheral power connectors -- now removing the
# power connector from HD or CD ROM drive is as simple as
# squeeze-and-pull !
# I/O Switch for manual shut-down.
# Over Voltage Protection,
# Over Power Protection,
# Circuit Protection
# Support EPS 12V 8pin Connectors
# Unit Size : 150mmx140mmx86mm
# Net Weight : 2.35KGS
# Maximum Power : 600W
# Switches : 230V ONLY
# Special connectors : 1* 20+4 P, 1* PCI-E 6PIN, 2* SATA
# Transient Responser : transient load slew rate is = 1.0 A/µs.
# P.G. Signaler : 100-500mS
# Over Voltage Protection recycle AC to reset : 1 second

# Input Voltage : 180VAC~264VAC
# Input Frequency : 47-60Hz
# Input Surge Current : 100 amps maximum/230Vrm
# Input Current : 6A
# Hold-up Time : Hold-up>16mS
# Efficiency : power supply is a minimum of 72% efficient
# EMI/RFI : EN55022 CLASS B

wiykd that card work? thanks for all your help guys


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Response Number 24
Name: kx5m2g
Date: July 16, 2009 at 13:25:23 Pacific
Reply:

"well, the repetition of the info might help to reinforce the point for tom" I don't think so. tom4433: You didn't stae the the amperage for the +12V rail or rails, as has been noted many times already. For example, if you look at one of jam's links: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
Look at the output: It shows 41 amps for a single +12V rail.


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Response Number 25
Name: Supertrucker
Date: July 16, 2009 at 14:06:50 Pacific
Reply:

When a psu doesn't list the "output" amperage don't bother with it.

WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.


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