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what's a good brand ram for P4

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Name: MrPolite
Date: February 1, 2004 at 17:39:09 Pacific
OS: winxp pro
CPU/Ram: 3ghz/1gb
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I currently have 2 512 pc3200 modules of ram. It is infotrack or some other unkown brand. My comp keeps rebooting everyday and I'm tired of this. What would be a good brand for a P4 ram? I probably want the same pc3200's, or maybe a little better



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Name: Chris Woelkers
Date: February 1, 2004 at 17:57:37 Pacific
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This constant rebooting doesn't sound like a RAM problem to me. So I ask, how do you know that it is the RAM? Are you getting a BSOD before the computer reboots stating anything about the RAM? If not then are the reboots random or do they have some predictability to them? Have you noticed any other problems, such as some programs seem to take forever to start or you can't even get logged in sometimes? I know this may sound like help-desk questions, and I don't mean to insult you if you have checked every possibility, but as I said before, this doesn't sound like a RAM problem to me, more like a CPU overheating or a lack of power from the power supply.

And if it truly is a RAM problem than I would recommend Crucial(Micron), Mushkin, or Kingston RAM(note: NOT Kingston Value RAM) as they all make quality RAM.


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Response Number 2
Name: MrPolite
Date: February 1, 2004 at 18:11:01 Pacific
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Well I assume it's the ram. I had to replace the ram THREE times before I could even boot up my computer (they sold me defective ram of the same brand 3 times. yes a bad buy)...

A lot of programs including zonealarm, give memory errors every now and then and close. I have actually disabled the error report that windows shows, it just reboots without showing that (I'll enable it right now). My power supply should be plenty too. It is an Antec TruePower 480 watt, I dont have too many devices or a highend graphics card either, so it shouldnt be using too much power. I have 4 case fans also, always seems to be cool. Anyhow, how could the processor cause the reboots?


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Name: Chris Woelkers
Date: February 1, 2004 at 18:27:09 Pacific
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On P4 systems, if the CPU starts to heat up beyond a certain temperature, then there is an automatic shutdown routine built into the BIOS, or it might be built directly into the CPU itself i'm not certain which, that will shut down the system to keep the CPU from frying. Thats how an overheating CPU can shut down the computer. Unfortuanitly the same safegaurd is not built into AMD chips which causes them to be fried quite easily if there is not sufficient cooling.

Don't worry about enabling the windows error screan, I belive you. My advice is to go out and get some Good RAM and return the crap you bought. It will probably cost more than what you originaly paid, but it will be worth it. As I suggested in my first post, get either Crucial(same as Micron) or Kingston as they are decently priced for the quality they offer. If however you want high performance RAM, and are willing to spend for it, then go for OCZ or Mushkin.


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Name: MrPolite
Date: February 1, 2004 at 18:35:44 Pacific
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Thank you:) I should replace these soon...

I'll try messing with the CPU too, but it's probably the stupid ram. thanks for the replies.

(btw one other thing, sometimes when I boot my comp, it just hangs during the boot. Doesnt happen very often but I've seen it happen about 5 times in the past 2 months. Could this have anything to do with the ram too?)


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Name: MrPolite
Date: February 1, 2004 at 18:53:12 Pacific
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umm I wrote a little test program to make the processor usage go to 100%. Initially the CPU temp was about 43C and I ran the program for about 3 minutes. The case and the motherboard chipset temp only increased a little bit, but the cpu temp went up to 57C....Case temp was 35C and motherboard chipset temp was 49C. I have no idea if this is high or normal for the CPU, so I just decided to stop the program. Let me know if this temp is normal or if I should let my program use the CPU at 100% for a longer period of time


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Response Number 6
Name: Chris Woelkers
Date: February 2, 2004 at 13:05:29 Pacific
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A temp of 57C is normal for a 3Ghz P4. Don't be suprised to see temps up to 65C sometimes when doinng heavy duty stuff like video editing.


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