Solved What is the best graphics card that will run on a 220w PSU?

Acer Aspire x1301-u9032 desktop computer...
January 24, 2012 at 10:31:27
Specs: Windows 7, AMD Athlon x2 215 / 4gb DDR3
What is the best graphics card that will run on a 220w PSU?

I have an Acer Aspire x1301. It came with a discrete Geforce 210, but it's just not up to par to run Star Wars new MMO. I've checked into replacing the PSU to get a good card, but it appears it's some proprietary model and unless I swap the case I'm stuck at 220W.

Other than the hard drive and dvd drive, I'm not running anything else on the PSU. What's the best low profile GPU that I could run here?

Thanks in advance


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January 24, 2012 at 13:57:33
There's 6 different PSUs listed on that page, all 220W. The one you listed has 14A on the +12v rail. Here's a link:

http://www.ascendtech.us/lite-on-ps...

Looks like a TFX type. Here's a 300W unit with two +12v rails at 18A each:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

From what I can tell, your Acer didn't come with that graphics card, so why did you buy it? The 210 isn't a gaming card & a little searching would have told you that.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/inno3...

If you don't want to pay for a new card & a PSU, this Radeon HD 5570 should work with your current PSU & give considerably better performance:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

http://www.hwcompare.com/195/geforc...

EDIT: See response # 16 for PSU info.



#1
January 24, 2012 at 11:12:00
You need to read the label on the power supply and post the Amps on the +12V rail. That is the critical number.

You will need a LOW PROFILE PCIe 16 graphics card.


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#2
January 24, 2012 at 11:52:12
I'm not at home right now, so this is from the service manual:

POWER SUPPLY 220W NON-PFC
115V/230V LITEON PS-5221-06A1-
ROHS

Link here: It's on page 84.

Does that help? If not, I'll crack open the case tonight and repost everything I see on the PSU.


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#3
January 24, 2012 at 12:36:57
You have to crack open the case. Read off the label.

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#4
January 24, 2012 at 13:57:33
✔ Best Answer
There's 6 different PSUs listed on that page, all 220W. The one you listed has 14A on the +12v rail. Here's a link:

http://www.ascendtech.us/lite-on-ps...

Looks like a TFX type. Here's a 300W unit with two +12v rails at 18A each:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

From what I can tell, your Acer didn't come with that graphics card, so why did you buy it? The 210 isn't a gaming card & a little searching would have told you that.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/inno3...

If you don't want to pay for a new card & a PSU, this Radeon HD 5570 should work with your current PSU & give considerably better performance:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

http://www.hwcompare.com/195/geforc...

EDIT: See response # 16 for PSU info.


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#5
January 24, 2012 at 15:19:00
Thanks for the reply. The GT 210 card came in the machine at purchase.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...

I was interested in this card Radeon 5670
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Toms hardware rated it best GPU under $100. Think that would work? Again, will post the PSU info when I get home tonight.

Thanks.


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#6
January 24, 2012 at 20:08:42
You still need to post the specs of the power supply. That said here are some numbers for you to crunch. First of all the graphics card you mentioned draws around 55/65W, which equals about 5A@12V.

Look at the charts linked below for more power consumption.

Athlon x2-215 =65W

http://www.infobarrel.com/PC_power_...
http://www.geeks3d.com/20100226/the...

Add up all the components in the box to come up with a grand total. You need some overhead too.

Bottom line for sure is this. Any card that requires an external power connector of any kind isn't going to work with that power supply. The card you chose MIGHT, depending on the 12V amperage rating.

Like riider said, that ain't no gaming rig.


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#7
January 24, 2012 at 20:40:50
Refer back to #4

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#8
January 24, 2012 at 20:48:57
Fingers

That is the number I found also. That said, the Op still needs to do the math. I am not doing it for them. Cutting pretty close at 5A@12 for the CPU and another 5A@12V for the 5670. That only leave 4A for everything else that uses 12V.


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#9
January 25, 2012 at 11:22:05
Here's what the power supply reads:

DC output: +5V ==/ 14A max -12 V ==/ 0.3A max +12V ==/ 14A Max
+5V (SB) ==/ 2A Max +3.3V ==/ 13A Max

+3.3V & +5V Total Output Not Exceed 80W
+3.3V & +5v & +12V & -12V &+5Vsb Total Output not exceed 220W

Is that what you were asking for? I hope that means something to you, because it's just a string of numbers to me. :-)

Thanks again for the help.


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#10
January 25, 2012 at 14:01:39
After doing some math with conservative numbers, it looks like I have 72 watts for the video card and any overage.

Based on that, I'm looking at a radeon 6570 2 gig card (50 watts). It's about 19 watts more than the GT 210 that came with the machine, fits the very tight slot, has a fan (because of the tight fit for circulation) and is only a touch worse performer than the 5670.
http://www.hwcompare.com/10579/rade...

Here's the card I'm going with. I'm going to order tomorrow. Let me know if I'm out of my mind or wrong. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...

Thanks!


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#11
January 25, 2012 at 14:34:27
Minimum PSU Wattage Requirement 400 Watt

This is from the specs on that web page. You're way off base. I don't know how you're figuring, but you're not even close. Look at this tool.

http://educations.newegg.com/tool/p...


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#12
January 25, 2012 at 19:57:14
First of all the card you linked is NOT a low profile card and will not fit in your case. After looking at the link of the case blowup I can't see where you can increase the wattage enough to make it worth the effort. Any card that will run on the power you have available will not be enough of an improvement to matter.

Either get a larger case or a completely new computer. By the time you buy a case, new power supply and graphics card you will spend at least $200 or more.


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#13
January 25, 2012 at 20:10:29
@ Othehill . . . I'm pretty sure it is a low profile card. It says so in the title, in the description several times, and people in the comments said so. Take another look.

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#14
January 25, 2012 at 20:54:56
OK then I may have missed that.

The HD6670 draws even less current and the link below is for a model with ddr5 memory.

See the second link below rating system power draw when using that card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

According to that article the total system draw is 124W. I can't recommend you try this but it may well work.


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#15
January 26, 2012 at 11:59:26
After hemming and hawing . . . I finally decided to just play it safe and get a Radeon 5570. http://www.buy.com/pr/product.aspx?...

It ends up being much cheaper, and I've now read 3-4 threads of users with the same Acer x1301 model who upgraded to this card with no issues. In the end, I just decided not to push my luck with a higher end card. I'm sure for Star Wars The Old Republic this will work fine (heck, when I used to raid in WoW with the GT 210, I still got 25 fps, and currently get just under 20 with SWTOR).

Thanks to everyone for your help. Even someone as "computer savvy" as myself (mostly from the software side) finds this stuff very confusing. It's nice to have a place to get some assistance.

NOTE: For anyone reading the "best answer" I selected, please note that the psu is not a TFX one, and it will not fit. I selected the answer based on the graphics card suggested.


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#16
January 26, 2012 at 12:13:32
"please note that the psu is not a TFX one, and it will not fit"

If it's not a TFX, it's probably a mini ITX. Dimensions = 5.9" x 3.15" x 1.57" ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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