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Was there ever a non-standard AGP?

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Name: jackbomb
Date: May 17, 2007 at 20:39:08 Pacific
OS: Vista Home Premium across
CPU/Ram: PIII-S and AMD 64-X2
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While browsing the neighbourhood alleyways (don't you love spring cleaning?) I came across some old computer parts. Actually, it was a complete computer, minus a case and monitor. It's a P3-600, 384mb of RAM, and two 20GB hard drives. On my test bench, it booted right up. So now what I want to do with these parts is make a lovely Wooden HTPC and run it off my server.

Onboard video's too slow, so I'm trying to use an old FX5200 AGP card. The card won't fit! The AGP slot is too far back on the motherboard. It's not AGP Pro or anything like that. I tried my old AIW 9800, which also would not fit. The board has no manufacturer/model on it. I could post a picture if it's needed. Were there ever any "special" versions of AGP?

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Response Number 1
Name: Santa
Date: May 18, 2007 at 01:07:03 Pacific
Reply:

AGP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agp

It is probably a slot for a Riser Card


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Response Number 2
Name: OtheHill
Date: May 18, 2007 at 06:34:28 Pacific
Reply:

I agree with Santa. Riser slot on MBoards I have had were located as the first slot at the top and were quite small. Brown in color, I believe.


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Response Number 3
Name: LinuxOS2
Date: May 18, 2007 at 07:04:48 Pacific
Reply:

Look for an FCC# silk screened on the board and then try this link :

http://www.idhw.com/textual/pcb/_fc...

Keep the old stuff running


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Response Number 4
Name: jackbomb
Date: May 18, 2007 at 09:25:54 Pacific
Reply:

Nope, it's not a riser. It says right on the side of the slot that it's a Foxconn AGP slot. If it weren't located too far back on the board, my AGP card WOULD fit the slot.

The riser card has already been installed in a different slot.

Pentium III--Descendant of Intel Core.
Pentium III-S 1400 @ 1.63GHz, 512K L2
X800XT AIW OC 580/600
2GB of RAM
250GB HD
SB Audigy 2
QDI Advance 12 mobo
Smugly running Vista


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Response Number 5
Name: OtheHill
Date: May 18, 2007 at 09:31:37 Pacific
Reply:

How old is this MB? What is the processor running on it?


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Response Number 6
Name: jackbomb
Date: May 18, 2007 at 12:16:27 Pacific
Reply:

As I said in my original post, the processor is a P3-600 (slot 1 version, Katmai core) powered by a 440BX chipset. I'm guessing that it was built in 1999, maybe 2000.

I'm thinking that, since this thing has a riser card, perhaps it was originally in a SFF case. Do low profile AGP cards have their connectors placed further along the PCB than standard-profile cards? I do have a low-profile ATI 9600 somewhere. If I can find it I'll try it out.

Pentium III--Descendant of Intel Core.
Pentium III-S 1400 @ 1.63GHz, 512K L2
X800XT AIW OC 580/600
2GB of RAM
250GB HD
SB Audigy 2
QDI Advance 12 mobo
Smugly running Vista


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Response Number 7
Name: OtheHill
Date: May 18, 2007 at 12:33:14 Pacific
Reply:

You may be correct.


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Response Number 8
Name: jackbomb
Date: May 18, 2007 at 13:28:06 Pacific
Reply:

Well, I found my low profile AGP card, and it wouldn't fit either. This is one strange board.

I suppose I could take off the video card's bracket, cut off the part of the PCB that's preventing installation, and then try it.

Pentium III--Descendant of Intel Core.
Pentium III-S 1400 @ 1.63GHz, 512K L2
X800XT AIW OC 580/600
2GB of RAM
250GB HD
SB Audigy 2
QDI Advance 12 mobo
Smugly running Vista


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Response Number 9
Name: jam
Date: May 18, 2007 at 18:11:57 Pacific
Reply:

Have you determined the make/model of the board? I'm sure the manufacturer's site or manual could shed some light on what you have...you shouldn't have to cut the PCB.


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Response Number 10
Name: Tony Seiler
Date: May 19, 2007 at 04:28:34 Pacific
Reply:

have you tried taking off the metal retaining bracket and inserting it? If it sits too far back, perhaps you could mod a new bracket or space it out so that it will fit. Use plastic washers.

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Response Number 11
Name: jackbomb
Date: May 19, 2007 at 23:16:20 Pacific
Reply:

I finally figured out where this motherboard came from--an IBM Personal Computer 300PL.
I downloaded a whole bunch of manuals from Lenovo. They didn't mention anything special about the AGP slot. They just gave generic video card installation instructions.
So yesterday I trimmed off some of the video card's PCB and took off the metal bracket. The video card is now in the slot and working fine.

Next step--make a wooden chassis for this thing. :)

Thanks to those who replied.

Pentium III--Descendant of Intel Core.
Pentium III-S 1400 @ 1.63GHz, 512K L2
X800XT AIW OC 580/600
2GB of RAM
250GB HD
SB Audigy 2
QDI Advance 12 mobo
Smugly running Vista


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Response Number 12
Name: jam
Date: May 19, 2007 at 23:40:26 Pacific
Reply:

"wooden chassis"?

Care to explain?


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Response Number 13
Name: jackbomb
Date: May 19, 2007 at 23:55:43 Pacific
Reply:

From the original message:

While browsing the neighbourhood alleyways (don't you love spring cleaning?) I came across some old computer parts. Actually, it was a complete computer, minus a case and monitor. It's a P3-600, 384mb of RAM, and two 20GB hard drives. So now what I want to do with these parts is make a lovely Wooden HTPC and run it off my server. :-)


Pentium III--Descendant of Intel Core.
Pentium III-S 1400 @ 1.63GHz, 512K L2
X800XT AIW OC 580/600
2GB of RAM
250GB HD
SB Audigy 2
QDI Advance 12 mobo
Smugly running Vista


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Response Number 14
Name: Sabertooth
Date: May 20, 2007 at 10:19:21 Pacific
Reply:

Looks like this is the kind of LP cards that normally fit into that IBM machine's motherboard because of its NLX form factor.

Edit: No worries try the links below - it's just an illustration anyway.

http://www.pcsurplusonline.com/view...

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/medi...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Matrox-32MB-G40...



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Response Number 15
Name: cliffpage
Date: May 20, 2007 at 12:09:48 Pacific
Reply:

sabertooth, it wont let me access 'this' - I wanted to see what it is like.
message says:
You don't have permission to access /video/images/g200mms/g200-4.jpg on this server.


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