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Name: firedragom
Date: January 15, 2008 at 08:12:33 Pacific
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Comment:

I use cable internet, and but a while back after a lightning storm the ethernet port on my modem got hit. Well the cable guy came by and simply put a USB cord and I have been using that port ever since.

I am curious to know how much of an internet speed hit I am taking by using the USB port over the ethernet.



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Response Number 1
Name: RTAdams89
Date: January 15, 2008 at 08:22:07 Pacific
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The ethernet port is faster, but since the speed of your internet service is no where near the max speed of the Ethernet or USB standards, it doesn't make any different.

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http://ryanadams.blogsite.org


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Response Number 2
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: January 15, 2008 at 08:48:38 Pacific
Reply:

All network related devices such as network cards, routers, switches, and dial-up and high speed modems, and your max internet speed rating, are rated in bits per second, not bytes per second. Dividing the rate in bits per second by about 10 is your approximate max data transfer speed in bytes per second - 8 bits per byte, plus the equivalent of about 2 bits per byte for error correction and other network overhead. Your internet max speed is still achieved if you have a high speed modem even if you connect to only a USB 1.x connection, or only to a 10mbps network card on an older computer, at least that's the case if max internet speeds don't exceed 10 megabits per second.(They're presently trying out faster than that in parts of Australia apparently)


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Response Number 3
Name: StuartS
Date: January 15, 2008 at 10:02:34 Pacific
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The fastest broadband speeds I have seen being trialled is 24 Mbps. This is faster than the USB 1.1 speed of 11Mbs but still a lot slower then USB 2.1 speeds of 480 Mbs.

So if you have USB 2.1 as stated previously, it's not going to make any difference to internet speeds for a long time to come.

Stuart


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Response Number 4
Name: Cody (by codyrichter)
Date: January 15, 2008 at 10:20:58 Pacific
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short answer...Its just as fast...long answer, it requers more work for your computer to use a usb modem then the built in ethernet so in theroy your comp might run slightly slower, but the difference is porbaly un noticable. 24 mbps is for t1 or t3, not dsl or cable. Since your using cable internet the max u will ever even dream of gettign is about 8-10. Even if u used usb 1.1 the intenet speed is still the bodle neck thus usb will be just as fast.

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Response Number 5
Name: StuartS
Date: January 15, 2008 at 10:40:39 Pacific
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>> 24 mbps is for t1 or t3, not dsl or cable <<

Well actually here in the UK T1 or T3 is meaningless, we dont use it. There are trials going on for 24 Mbs DSL. In fact depending on where you live in the UK 24 Mbs DSL is avalalble now.

50 Mbs cable is a possibility in the not to distant future.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/...

Stuart


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Response Number 6
Name: jackbomb
Date: January 15, 2008 at 10:50:03 Pacific
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Your PC has USB 2.0 and a 10/100 NIC. USB 2.0's maximum transfer rate is 60MB/s, but it usually peaks out at around 30MB/s. However, this is still much faster than the 11MB/s that a 10/100 NIC is capable of sustaining. Your internet speed should not have dropped by switching the modem over to USB.

Despite his qestonable speling, Cody makes a good point in saying that sending data through a USB port does burn a few more CPU cycles than does sending data through an Ethernet connection. However, you wouldn't notice the difference on any 300MHz+ computer.

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Response Number 7
Name: Michael J (by mjdamato)
Date: January 15, 2008 at 10:58:16 Pacific
Reply:

However, if you are using USB I am assuming you are directly connecting the modem to your PC. I always recommed using a router even if you have only 1 PC. It provides a much better level of security than using a firewall alone. There are a few routers (I believe) that allow a USB connection to the modem, but most are Cat5 only.

Michael J


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Response Number 8
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: January 15, 2008 at 11:30:04 Pacific
Reply:

USB is also rated in megabits per second, not megabtyes per second.
http://lyberty.com/tech/terms/usb.html
I don't know if dividing that by about 10 or by 8 gives you the megabytes per second rate.

(in bits)
Low speed, up to 1.5 Mbps (USB 1.0)
Full speed, up to 12 Mbps (USB 1.1)
Hi-Speed, up to 480 Mbps (in theory; USB 2.0)


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Response Number 9
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 15, 2008 at 12:46:44 Pacific
Reply:

Tubes, you divide by 8. 8bits = 1 byte. That is why the x86 systems are multiples of 8. 32bit system process 4 bytes at a time and so on.

I just read last week that doscis 3.0 standard are finalized. Comcast plans to start rollout at slower speeds later this year. Theoretical transfer speeds are in the 165Mbps range. With overhead they expect to get around 100Mbps. Link below.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...



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Response Number 10
Name: firedragom
Date: January 15, 2008 at 17:50:15 Pacific
Reply:

Alright thanks for all the responses guys. So in conclusion, an ethernet port would not really matter much in terms of internet speed. Thanks again everyone.


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Response Number 11
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: January 15, 2008 at 22:36:16 Pacific
Reply:

Of course there are 8 bits in a byte, but since you need to also allow for "overhead" for network card or chipset connections, surely you would need to allow for similar for a USB connection, even if it's a lot less than the equivalent of 2 bits per byte needed for network card or chipset connections.


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