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Name: hank
Date: December 21, 2005 at 18:11:00 Pacific
Subject: upgrading graphics card
OS: dell dimension 5000
CPU/Ram: p4, 3.2ghz, 1024mb ram g
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hello all.
well i bought this dell dimension 5000 from dell new, in april 2005 and thought it would be fully upgradable to a mid range pci express graphics card, the card that was in it when i bought it was a ati radeon x300se which worked fine but was thinking of upgrading it to a nvidia geforce 6800gs card so i gave dell a ring and asked them would the geforce 6800gs be compatible with my dell dimension 5000 and he said it would be fully compatible so i bought the card for 294 euro and tried to connect it and then realized that for the 6800gs you need a minimum of 350 watts power supply with two available 4-pin molex hard drive power dongles,my power supply has only 305 watt power supply and nowhere to connect the power dongles. now the shop wont refund me for the graphics card and dell technical support say they can do nothing to help me even though it was one of their tech employees that said it would be fully compatable can anyone tell me if there is any other way of fixing this problem. i understand that i will have to upgrade the power supply to 350 or higher but am not sure if the motherboard will handle the extra power. thanks to anyone that can help...


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Response Number 1
Name: cyberlantz
Date: December 21, 2005 at 19:16:09 Pacific
Subject: upgrading graphics card
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In a nutshell, yer boned. The problem with dells is that Their PSU's are designed specially for thier cases and mobos. Even if you did manage to cram a regular PSU in the case, you would be screwed because there is a good chance that you would fry the mobo. All of dells parts are made to work together and you really cant replace any of them. You would be better off getting a new psu, mobo, and a cheap case and then using the ram, CPU, HD and drives. You would also need a new OS since you cant use the disk that came with your dell. Just either take the card back and save up for parts for a real computer or keep it and build one now.


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Response Number 2
Name: hank
Date: December 21, 2005 at 19:29:35 Pacific
Subject: upgrading graphics card
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thanks for the reply cyberlantz.
i know, your right it looks like i have no choice im dissapointed with dell that they only stick the cheap standard power supply and motherboard in, over a thousand euro computer that does not even allow you to upgrade a very important part of the system the graphics card.
thanks again for the help...
HANK


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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: December 21, 2005 at 19:35:46 Pacific
Subject: upgrading graphics card
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A PSU that's rated at 350W doesn't deliver 350W of power at all times...but it has up to 350W available should you need that much. Amperage is the important thing. If your 305W PSU has enough amperage, especially on the +12v rail, you *may* be OK. All you can do is try. You'll need a splitter or 2:

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Response Number 4
Name: Josh C.
Date: December 22, 2005 at 07:56:31 Pacific
Subject: upgrading graphics card
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you can get a splitter for the molex connector. and as far as PSU power jam is right it is usually rated at peak output. and they exagerate on requirements anyway; i made a 6800GT work in a system w/ 295 watt PSU, and it also wanted 350 watts. just get the molex splitter/adapter and you will probably be okay. if not you can sell the gfx card on eBay and *probably* get most of what you paid for it.

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Response Number 5
Name: randy_s
Date: December 22, 2005 at 09:57:24 Pacific
Subject: upgrading graphics card
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I ran a 6600 GT on a Dell 8300 that required more power supply then I had. It worked fine.

I would also visit the Dell forums. There is quite a bit of information on there that I didn't know and the Dell techs can't provide you. Actually, here is a list from that forum:

PCIe video cards for the following systems: Dimension 4700, 8400, 5000, 5100, 5150, E510, 9100, 9150, XPS Gen 3, XPS Gen 4, XPS Gen 5, XPS 400, XPS 600
Radeon X1800 XT 512mb 1400 clock
Radeon X1800 Pro 512mb
GeForce 7800
Radeon X1800 XL 256mb
Radeon X1600 12 pipes 600 clock
Radeon X1600
Radeon X1600
GeForce 6800 U
GeForce 6800 GT
Radeon X850 XT PE
Radeon X800 XT PE
Radeon X850 XT
Radeon X800 XT
Radeon X850 Pro
Radeon X800 Pro
Radeon X800
GeForce 6600 GT
Radeon X700 Pro
GeForce 5900 PCX
Radeon X700
GeForce 6800
Radeon X600 XT
GeForce 6600
Radeon X600 Pro

It does not list the 6800 GS, but does list the 6800 GT as working. So I think you're safe.

Link to dimension video upgrade forums: http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board?board.id=dim_video

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Response Number 6
Name: hank
Date: December 22, 2005 at 18:32:55 Pacific
Subject: upgrading graphics card
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thanks to all of you for the good advice. i will check out all information that you have given me and i will see if i can sort it out. thanks again
hank...


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