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Name: Flavory
Date: June 27, 2004 at 20:05:57 Pacific
Subject: Upgrade question?
OS: Windows XP
CPU/Ram: 2.0 P4 758MB or Ram
Comment:

Time to upgrade, but I'm not sure what would be the best bang for the buck? I run a lot of high end games on my computer and some of them are very laggy.

Application CD
Application CD Version 5.5 Disc 1
Applications CD Version 6.0 Disc 2 of 2

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17-inch IDE Cable for Ultra/66 Ultra/100 R0
CBL FDD R0
CD-ROM Cable R0

Cases and Case Hardware
Pinta Desktop Mid-Tower Case

CD-ROM, CD-RW or CR-RW Drives - Find Upgrades
Lite-On 40x 12x 48x CDR-W 02ID R0

Floppy Drives
NEC 1.44-MB Floppy Disk Drive Revision 0

Gateway Drivers CD
Desktop Drivers CD 19.5

Hard Drives - Find Upgrades
Western Digital 80-GB 7200-RPM Hard Disk Drive

Memory - Find Upgrades
MEM DDR 512-MB PC266B 16X8 R0
MEM DDR 256-MB PC266B 16X8 R0

Microsoft Software - Find Upgrades
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

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VX1120 22-inch Monitor With 20-inch Viewable Area

Power Supplies
160-Watt Power Supply

Speakers
Boston Acoustics BA745 2.1 Analog Speaker System O2ID Revision 0

Video Cards
128MB NVIDIA GeForce4 MX440

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Intel (Essex) Pentium 4 - 2.0 GHz


Motherboard specs

Form Factor Micro-ATX
Processor Support for Intel Pentium 4 and Celeron processors
400MHz or 533MHz System Data bus 478-pin zero insertion force (ZIF) socket
Memory Support for 64Mb, 128Mb, 256Mb or 512Mb technologies.
2 DIMM socket support for two double sided PC-2100/PC-1600 DIMMs.
Maximum system memory
256 MB (using 64Mb technology)
512 MB (using 128 Mb technology)
1024 MB (using 256 Mb technology)
2048 MB (using 512 Mb technology)
Single or dual-sided un-buffered DDR-DRAM DIMM configuration

Chipset 82845G (GMCH)
82801 DB (ICH4)
82802AB (FWH)

Integrated Ethernet Intel® 82562ET (Kinnereth) 10/100 Mbit/sec Platform LAN Connect (PLC) device
Audio Chipset Audio subsystem for AC ‘97 processing using the Analog Devices AD1981A codec. (Analog only output jack)
I/O Controller SMC LPC47M172-NR I/O controller
LBA Support for 48-bit Logical Block Addressing (LBA)
Integrated Video Intel® Extreme Graphics controller
AGP connector supporting 1x, 2x, and 4x AGP cards (1.5 V only) or an AGP Digital Display (ADD) card
Integrated retention mechanism

Peripheral interfaces Six USB 2.0 ports
One serial port
One parallel port
Two IDE interfaces with Ultra DMA, ATA-33/66/100 support
One disk drive interface
PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports

Expansion Capabilities Intel/AMI BIOS (resident in the 4 Mbit FWH)
Support for Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI), Plug and Play, and SMBIOS
Three PCI 2.2 compliant add-in peripheral slots

Reliability The MTBF data is calculated from predicted data at 55° C. (131° F) MTBF is 112,977.7547 hours.

Power Usage (Assumes a 2.0 GHz Intel Pentium 4 processor with a 512 KB cache)
Mode AC Power DC Power at:
+3.3V +5V +12V -12V +5V
ACPI S0 61.0W 3.02A 0.12A 0.99A 0.014A 0.22A
ACPI S1 53.9W 2.91A 0.11A 0.68A 0.014A 0.16A
ACPI S3 4.3W 0.0A 0.0A 0.0A 0.0A 0.45A


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Response Number 1
Name: Sabertooth
Date: June 27, 2004 at 20:43:18 Pacific
Subject: Upgrade question?
Reply: (edit)

From the specs above I would probably only upgrade a couple of parts for now. The video card and definitely the PSU.

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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: June 27, 2004 at 21:06:47 Pacific
Subject: Upgrade question?
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I second the motion....


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Response Number 3
Name: SkipCox
Date: June 27, 2004 at 21:10:37 Pacific
Subject: Upgrade question?
Reply: (edit)

I'll buy into that suggestion too. It's good to hear of no lockups or crashes.

Skip


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Response Number 4
Name: Sabertooth
Date: June 27, 2004 at 21:28:17 Pacific
Subject: Upgrade question?
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Out of disbelief, I used the Power Wattage Calculator and being extremely conservative and frugal this PC still requires over 250Watts of juice.

Either Gateway had a solid cookie cutter to depend on for their PSU's, that 160Watt PSU is incorrectly labeled or Flavory just happen to have been lucky with that lemon....;~).

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Response Number 5
Name: Flavory
Date: June 27, 2004 at 21:38:59 Pacific
Subject: Upgrade question?
Reply: (edit)

Seems everyone agrees I need to upgrade the PSU and video card. I found a decent PSU and figured I would go for the high end video card. Someone told me I should upgrade to a 2.8 P4 533FSB to get the most from the new video card. I saw 2 different ones. One had 512KB L2 cache the other had 1MB L2 Cash. Oddly enough to me the 512KB was cheaper???


350W PSU
ATI 9800 Pro Video Card
2.8GHz P4 1MB L2 cache 533FSB

So is the processor going to make a big difference?


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Response Number 6
Name: Flavory
Date: June 27, 2004 at 21:43:56 Pacific
Subject: Upgrade question?
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I got the 160W PSU specs from 2 places. One was using Belrac Advisor software on my PC. After I did that I went to gate way and found my specific specs in there system (They have a system where you input your serial number and they tell you what you have). That data matched what I ordered from them line for line. Guess if I upgrade anything it has to have a new PSU.


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Response Number 7
Name: SkipCox
Date: June 27, 2004 at 23:09:31 Pacific
Subject: Upgrade question?
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I wouldn't worry about the processor. The one you have will do nicely. I do believe the perceivable difference between the 2.0 and 2.8 would disappoint you.

Skip


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