Thinking about buying WD 500GB internal HDD

Hewlett-packard / Xa
July 22, 2010 at 12:54:42
Specs: OpenSuSE 11.2
I am thinking about buying this 500gb WD5000AVJB harddrive. It only has a 1 x ATA-100 - 40 pin IDC interface, and 8mb buffer, but i am asking if it is wise to use it as a single internal hdd and have multiple os' on it. All the sites i found say it is for dvrs and security cameras. would it be good for my purpose? If not, i have another i am looking at. It is a MAXTOR MAXLINE II 320GB ULTRA/ATA133 (only 2mb buffer, but it does support 80 wire udma 133) 5400rpm.

Which one would you recommend? Which is faster: 8mb buffer on 40 wire interface, or 2mb buffer on 80 wire interface?

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July 22, 2010 at 12:59:42
Both of those drives should be connected using an 80 wire/ 40 pin cable. If you have 2 IDE channels they should be both capable of ATA6 speeds. Just change the cable or if you have a CD drive on the other cable just switch things around.

The drive with the 8MB buffer should be faster.

There is no inherent reason why you can't have multiple partitions? OSes on a single drive.

Keep in Mind that you should ALWAYS have backups of your important data.

Post the complete model of your computer for further help.

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July 22, 2010 at 13:52:56
i know from experience that my computer is capable of 80 wire. I actually have 80-wire wires. my questions were, what is the better drive, and what is the fastest between the two. the first one is recommended for dvrs and security cameras and external storage(with a drive enclosure) i couldn't find anything about anyone using it as a main internal harddrive. even wd said it was for those uses, so i am unsure if it can handle an os for as many years as a different harddrive would.

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July 22, 2010 at 15:01:00
You didn't post the spindle speed of each one.

7200RPM is better than 5400RPM.

8MB buffer is better than 2MB.

Look at the link below for good pricing on hard drives.

If you actually click on the listing for the drive you can then see reviews and the full specs for that drive.

Pay attention to average seek time also. Faster is better if using the drive for the Operating system.

I have had the best luck with WD drive lately.

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July 22, 2010 at 15:23:45
thank you. i am getting the wd. i have had 2 maxtors die on me and i have one that's about to go out. it's starting to click and make all kinds of noise. and i have a wd from 1998 and it went 6 years with malware and 4 viruses on it. once i learned how, i got it back to brand new condition. quiet as can be. it has ext4 and swap on it. never gets hot. anyway, thanks for the replies.

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July 22, 2010 at 15:27:07
There may be better WD choices than the one you were considering. The seek time is slower than normal, indicative of a 5400RPM drive.

The list I linked was filtered to only show 7200RPM drives 3.5", IDE.

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July 22, 2010 at 18:50:01
All IDE drives have 40-pin connectors. The IDE cables that plug into them have either 40 or 80 wires...the extra 40 wires are all ground. A 40-wire cable is only capable of ATA33 transfer rates. 80-wire cables are capable of ATA33, ATA66, ATA100 or ATA133 depending on the motherboard and/or drive.

That being said, why would you get a "slow" HDD that spins at 5400 RPM & only has a 2MB buffer? If you're getting it extremely cheap & don't care about performance, that's fine. But there are plenty of 7200 RPM HDDs with 8MB or 16MB buffers out there for about $50-60.

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July 22, 2010 at 19:29:42
i checked. it's a 7200rpm and i'm buying it for $40 brand new.
EDIT: i'm talking about the wd for $40. the maxtor is $29

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July 22, 2010 at 19:55:44
Remember that the capacity after formating will be approx 465GB.

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July 23, 2010 at 00:57:30
WD is a good brand, i like it very much

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July 23, 2010 at 05:56:20
Product: Hewlett-packard / Xa

Read the User manual. The WD 500GB HDD may not work with HP Kayak XA Desktop which is a 450-MHz, Pentium III, 192 MB RAM originally sold with a mere 6.4 GB HDD.


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July 23, 2010 at 06:10:41
Good catch XPUser

ubuntu, what XP is pointing out is that your motherboard BIOS is probably not 48 bit LBA compliant. That means the BIOS can't properly handle any hard drive larger than 127GB.

Look at the link below for more on that. Using it under those conditions, assuming it works at all WILL result in data loss or corruption.

The solution if this is the case, is to install a PCI based controller card. If you do that, you can then use SATA drives instead. That assumes you have a compatible PCI slot.

After looking into this further I suggest you just get a newer computer. If cash is an issue then buy something used.

Computers given to Goodwill will have specs 3 times faster than what you have.

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July 23, 2010 at 06:39:17
i's going in my dell dimension 2400. my current drives are going in my kayak
my kayak came out with p2 400mhz and 64mb ram. it also had a pos seagate in it that failed miserably.(using wd now) i stuck 2 more 64s in it just to make it handle xubuntu and ubuntu. i use opensuse on my dell. don't say my dell is crap. i know it's a 6-7 year old computer, but i see it out-lasting most newer computers. it is a reliable system. all i need is a p4 3.06ghz, a couple of 1 gig sticks of 184-pin ddr sdram, a pci graphics card, and a new higher watt ps.

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July 23, 2010 at 07:36:42
I didn't say anything about a Dell we knew nothing about. That said, if you intend to spend that much on the Dell you should consider buying new. You can upgrade all you want, the technology is still generations removed.

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July 23, 2010 at 08:00:54
My Dell was free. $40 for a 500gb hdd, $20 for ram, $30 for video card. The ps is free. $90 to bring my computer to 2010 vs Several hundreds of dollars for a 2010 computer. Besides, this Dell is what i'm using until i decide to get an Alienware laptop. That will be my first i7

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July 23, 2010 at 08:13:48
Are you running the Dell branded version of Windows on it? If not, then consider a new MBoard and processor.

You didn't mention the cost of a faster processor in your calculations.

Not sure where you can get 2GB of 184 SDRAM for $20 either. Link below shows typical casts for RAM.

A $30 dollar video card isn't going to be much of an upgrade either.

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July 23, 2010 at 10:51:40
i forgot the processor. i have a friend who will trade it for some of my games. $0. He is also the same guy who has the ram and video card. the video card is used, and he doesn't need it. it is a 1gb. i can't remember the exact specs. and why would i run windows? windows sucks. all the viruses and trojans and malware. it's like sharing needles. i am dedicated to linux. opensuse, all the 'buntu's, knoppix, debian, etc. why spend lots of money to be guaranteed viruses and a non-customizable os when you can have an open source os that is rare to get a virus, and it's free?

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