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Yup, it's another one of these questions, which you seem to have many of listed in the search area >_< But are not entirely suitable for my problem.
At this rate I might buy a TV tuner before someone tries recommending it ^_^ Although the amount of cables for sound and video seems daunting >_<Anyway, I have a Geforce FX5600, with a TV-Out socket, and a freebie S-Video cable to go with when I brought it. I now have that connected to an RF cable going into the back of the TV. The TV claims to be detected, and I almost agree, because it doesn't quite display properly ¬_¬
I know it sounds stupid, but what channel do I need!? The N64 and Gamecube both use Channel 22 on my TV tracked to a certain position, and from what I can tell the signal is getting through to the TV from the TV-Out, but is completely garbled.
Garbled so much you could 100% say it's not the second desktop at all, but when I pull out the RF connection on the TV, and plug it back in, you clearly lose this garbled picture and get all yur static back, and then returns on re-entry!I have a really old TV, a "Matsui 1466", which I'll be darned if you can buy anymore without it being 8th hand, so I dunno if this is the reason... it's so old it doesn't understand.
I tried tuning it on other channels but to no avail, just with similar Garbled pictures.Any help much appreciated!

You might have to go into your display settings, and adjust the settings for your "2nd monitor"...maybe the resolution or refresh is wrong.
Just a guess...tv's aren't like monitors...they don't show a blue screen with the message "video mode not supported" if your settings are incorrect. Since it's an old tv, it's probably trying to interpret an untuned signal.

Right... I tried both 800x600 and 1024x768, although it's stuck on 60Hz, where a pal TV uses 50Hz (I think), perhaps this is the cause.... And I have it set to I/PAL already people ^_^
Renamon, If You Lose I'm Going To Be Very Vexed...

Are you trying to plug the S-video cable into the aerial socket on the TV?
S-video out puts a raw video signal, there is no RF. It is the similar to composite video except that the chrominance and luminance signals are separated. Looking at the specs for your card it appears the s-video cable is an s-video to composite video adaptor.
Unless you TV has a s-video input connection or a composite video input, which is usualy an RCA socket coloured yellow, or the graphics card has an RF output, it isn't going to work.
As stated in post 1, it is probably trying to interpret an RF signal when there is no RF signal there to interpret.
Stuart

And you'd think after working on this for so long I would have worked that out >_<
Thankyou ^_^ For saving me a lifetimes work on something that would never have worked!I just came across the fact you need in DualView the monitor to be 50hz like the TV aswell!? My eyes would melt under those conditions anyway.
Well, thanks again ^_^ I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth getting a TV Tuner or not. Only reason being, I have seen S-Video produce better quality then a TV like mine would under GC gaming, and being able to use my monitor rather then the god forsaken 18th century TV would be nice!
And If it comes down to it, having 3 desktops would be darn handy ^_^Thanks again Stuart and.. uh.. "..."!

If you want to watch tv, just get a tv card. You can make the window small, and watch on the screen while you're surfing in another window.
The reason why it looks better on tv than on a monitor is because of resolution (click here).
TV resolution is less than a monitor, and isn't meant to be viewed up close like a monitor. Thus, if you watch tv on your computer, it won't be as clear as if it were on tv.
If you want multiple desk tops, or expand one desk top across multiple screens...it'd be best to have similar monitors. I have a 13" monitor that I tried to use alongside my 21" monitor...it was kind of funky. I don't remember what the problem was, but I don't do dual-view anymore. lol, I had intended on having my tv card output the tv to the 13" while I worked on the 21".

Well, I just tried to use the Onboard Sound and Network stuff on my motherboard and to my suprise it's working perfectly. With no PCI cards that leaves me with plenty of space for a TV Tuner and my old Voodoo 3500 to handle the second monitor, assuming the TV Tuner doesn't have a VGA Connection.
Maplins appears to sell WinTV Express, which seems nicely priced for what I require, and do I see an RF Port!? YEEHA, that's what I'm talking about! ^_^
Thankyou for further input!

Hey people, I return here with confusion! It's still highly related to my thread :P As I am now looking for a TV Tuner Card.
I'm looking at WinTV PCI, not the FM or anything, just something simple with connectors I may use in the future. But that's where it's confusing!
I read I couldn't use my S-Video out to connect to an RF connector on my TV because it can't understand the signal, yet I also read here:
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view.php/15434
That the Scart cable can transfer any data from any of the different connectors!?I can only guess it's a backwards compatible thing, like using Cat-6 cabling on 10Mbps ethernet network? The SCART is so new and ingenious it can handle any data in todays standards?
BUT if the backwards compatible thing is true, I'm confident that S-Video is much newer then RF stuff, so why doesn't it support that? Unless... the RF connector can't interpret the method the colours are encoded!?!? SO CONFUSING, any help much appreciated! ^_^
And on a side note if you have the time, do you think this is a picture of the WinTV PCI?
http://www.hauppauge.com.sg/pc/analog/wintvpci.jpg
Because on the comparison sheet it says it has Composite and S-Video connectors, yet I see Composite (Utilising SCART Technology I guess) and RF... which can't be using S-Video because it's basicaly been said already RF doesn't understand the S-Video Encoding of colours... or something... darn I'm stupid, so sorry for the hassle >_<Believe me, I google searched, but a mass of results were people selling converters and cables ~_~

RF stands for Radio Frequency. It is a high frequency radio signal modulated with sound and vision signals. It is what is transmitted by your local TV station and must be plugged into a tuner.
The large connector on the WinTV board is the RF input. It may also accept a cable input from a cable TV company, but it is still RF. The only things that have RF output are transmitters or RF modulators. Video recorders have RF modulators built in to enable the video to be connected to your TV. Graphics cards and PCI TV tuners to not normally have RF modulators built into them.
The yellow connector on the card is composite video. It is input, not output. Video cameras and some digital cameras have composite outputs so you can view your video or pictures on your computer. The red and white connectors are audio, left and right. I'm guessing the s-video connector is at the top and that will be input as well.
As for SCART, thats a whole different ball game. There are 21 pins on a SCART cable but not all of them are used all of the time. You can get a S-video to SCART converter, but then you will need a SCART input on your TV. You can no more plug a SCART cable into an RF socket then you can s-video. Backward compatibility doesn't come into it.
http://www.geocities.com/kaminsite/hi-fi/hfterms.htm
Stuart

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