Speaker+Headphone at the same time.

June 3, 2006 at 09:12:54
Specs: WinXP SP2, P4, 2.53GHz, 1GB

Hi,
I have an Asus p4v533 motherboard with an onboard sound card. The sound card suports 5.1 speakers.
I recently purchased a headphone. Is there anyway that I can use both my headphone and my regular speakers at the same time without needing to unplug one and plug in the other?
Is there any software solution by which I can selective direct the output either to my headphone or my speakers.
My sound card is "Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA(R) Audio Con troller".
In the sound drivers I have options for headphone, 2 channel, 4 channel and 6 channel.
I also have three buttons which toggel between "Line In/Rear Speaker out" and "Mic In/Center Subwoofer out.

What I am looking for is either having my headphone and my speaker on at the same time, or switch between the two via some software interface rather than have to unplug one and plug in the other.
Thanks very much,
Sarosh.

Sarosh


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#1
June 3, 2006 at 09:24:57

This might not be exactly what you need, but it will give you an idea:

http://www.audiooutfitter.com/store/18843.html


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#2
June 3, 2006 at 15:39:20

This would be exactly what I would need.
Thanks so much for letting me know about it.
I will start hunting for it on monday, hope its easily available.
Thanks a lot,
Sarosh.

Sarosh


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#3
June 3, 2006 at 18:26:00

Take a look at your mboard manual - you may have a header for headphones (a.k.a. line out) and Mic on the mboard already and all you have to do is get a suitable adapter plate/wiring. Or if your case has front mic/headphone ports, you may be able to just plug in the wires from the case.

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#4
June 4, 2006 at 02:04:54

You are right, I am giving you more details if it will help you to give me a solution please.

My Case does have two ports on the front.
One of them is green with a headphone icon the other is pink with a mic icon. There are two cable that come out of these two ports from within the motherboard. I have taken one of the cables and fixed it into the green socket (line out) at the back of my motherboard.
Now, what I can do is I either attach my headphone or or my speakers to the green socket in the front of my motherboard. So I dont need to go to the back of my computer case each time.
But what I would ideally like is to have some software solution for this, or else have both the speakers and headphone running at the same time. The headphone have a volume control on them so I can control it.
In my sound driver I have tons of options under "speaker configuration" to use the blue and pink sockets either as Rear Speaker Out/Line in, etc.
But I dont understand any of this.

Note:
I configured my sound card in 4.1 mode with "front speaker out" going to my regular speakers and "rear speaker out" going to my headphone.
The speakrs worked as regular, but I didnt hear anything on the headphone at all. However, when I ran the "speaker test" from the drivers the headphones worked. But under normal use all the audio is sent to the frot speakrs only, and nothing is heard on the rear speakers (my headphone)
If you have any software solution that would be awesome, because the audio socket on the front of my m/b is alredy becoming loose from plugging and unplugging the cables.


Sarosh


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#5
June 4, 2006 at 08:25:33

Most cases that have front headphone/mic jacks have wiring and connectors meant to be plugged into a header on the mboard - your case apparently has the other type - two cables (pairs of wires) to 2 male 1/8" jacks.
An easy way to do what you want to do is to get a Y cord like that you were pointed to - if you wear out anything it will be the female jacks on the Y cord.

However - I took a look at your P4v533 mboard manual - available on the UK Asus site apparently (your model is not on the USA site).
If you are only using two speakers you have a dual function port that functions as a Line Out port on the back of the case when you are using only two speakers - that you could use for the headphones at the same time as you use another jack for speakers - the headphones should work fine in that, providing they don't need to be amplified (most do not). See page 16 of the pdf manual.
You must, of course, make sure your Line Out is not muted in your sound mixer, and that the volume is not set too low. If they do need to be amplified the output will be too little for the headphones to work properly and you may hear nothing, or you have to turn up the Line Out volume high to hear only faint sound (the same applies to un-amplified speakers).
It is possible though, that jumper(s) are in the wrong place(s).
On page 31 of the PDF manual is the front panel audio header - the jumpers marked in blue must be in the positions shown.

If you find the labelling on that header confusing, and/or if you want to buy an adapter plate with the headphone and mic ports on it and wiring and connectors for a mboard header you can put in a spare external card slot space, see this:
http://www.computing.net/hardware/wwwboard/forum/42301.html

If you wanted a situation where plugging in headphones disables the speakers, mboards are not wired so that you can do that, and there is no software solution I know of that will do that.


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#6
June 4, 2006 at 08:37:02

If you do not have a Line Out volume listed in your sound mixer, it may hidden by default, and you have to find a setting that will make it appear.
E.g. in the standard Windows sound mixer, double click on the speaker icon in the taskbar, select Options - Properties, click on the box beside Line Out to insert a checkmark, and it will then appear in your mixer volumes.

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#7
June 4, 2006 at 12:25:55

Hi,
I searched for "Line Out" but it is no where in my audio properties.
I went to "playback properties" and selected all the check boxes. They are, from left to right:
Volume Control, Wave, SW Synth, Front, Subwoofer, Center, Read, SPDIF, Aux, Cd Player, Line in, Microphone.
There is nothing named as "line out"

I went into my speaker drivers and set the green socket as "front speakr out" and blue socket as "rear speaker out".
I ran the "speaker test" and all four worked properly. Ie the two speakrs as well as the two speakers on the headphone worked fine. But the problem is that in normal use only the speakrers function and the headphone is dead.
I guess this is because it sending out seperate audio to the speakers and the headphone. What I want is to have the same audio on the speaker as well as the headphone.

Am I not looking for the "line out" option properly.

Sarosh


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#8
June 4, 2006 at 13:29:33

"Am I not looking for the "line out" option properly."

In this case, you only have Line Out at that dual purpose jack in the rear if you use two speakers in the port at the rear in the default Spkr jack, and set the software (in playback properties) to use 2 speakers - if you set the software to use 4 speakers you have no Line Out because that dual purpose port on the rear is used for the front speakers - Line Out will not be visible or available to be selected.
That's explained in the mboard manual, but maybe not clearly enough.

If you still have no Line Out to select in Properties after you set the software to 2 speakers and connect two speakers (via one stereo jack) to the default Speaker jack on the rear, and reboot, sometimes Line Out is not there to be selected because it does not have a separate volume control - it is controlled only by the main Volume Control - the dual purpose jack will work as a line out / headhone jack just fine even so.



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#9
June 4, 2006 at 13:55:07

Hi,
Thanks very much and very sorry if I find this confusing.
So are you saying that the only way I can use both my headphone and my speaker at the same time is if I get the splitter?
I tried some of your suggestions above, and I was able to get my headphone to work normally but the sound on the speakers was very low even at full volume. So there is a way to get the same audio on both the speaker and the headphone, but one of them is barely audable.


Sarosh


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#10
June 4, 2006 at 14:33:32

I took another look at your manual, page 16 of the pdf file (not of the manual itself) - I had it wrong, or at least confused - since you have only three 1/8" jacks you do it this way:

"So are you saying that the only way I can use both my headphone and my speaker at the same time is if I get the splitter"

No - that is just one option.
If you want to do that, normally you would set your software to 2 speaker mode, and connect the Y cord to the Lime (green) jack (Line out, or Spkr if it's an amplifed pair). (In 2 skpr mode, the Light Blue jack is in Line In mode)

You might as well try what is already there before you bother to get a Y cord - Set the playback to 4 speakers. Plug your pair of speakers into the Light Blue jack (rear spkrs in 4 speaker mode), plug your headphones into the Lime (green) jack (front spkrs in 4 spkr mode).

You could extend whatever jack you plug the speakers into (depending on which mode playback is in) to the front of the case if you like.

If they are still very uneven in volume, you may or may not have separate volumes for front and rear in your mixer to choose from - if not, try the Y cord and the settings and connections for that - they may still be uneven in volume.



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#11
June 5, 2006 at 05:18:48

I did exactly what you said, and the headphone work fine, but the volume on the speakers is barely audiable even at full volume, it is extremely faint.

I check in the volume control (the speaker icon near the time) and there is a "rear" option in there but it is faded out. Next to it there is "Aux" and that is not faded out and can be adjusted and muted.
Do you think I could use the "Aux" instead of the rear out.
I apprecate your taking the time for all this. If this does not work I will go get the splitter anyway.

Sarosh


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#12
June 5, 2006 at 05:39:37

Hi,
Please disregard the previous post.
I have some good news for you.
I tried what you suggested and here are the results:
1) When I run songs on winamp it only playes on the headphone and the sound on the speaker is barely audable even at full volume.
2) When I play a movie file in windows media player and a song in winamp I can hear the song only on the headphones, where as I can hear the movie audio on the headphone as well as the speakers.
And here is the best part...
3) When I run a game I get the game audio on the speaker as well as the speaker at very good volume and quality:)

Do you think I can now play games in 4 speaker mode? Is the exact same sound being duplicated in the speaker and the headphone, or am I actually getting surround sound from 4 differnet speakers?

Now that I am able to get game sound on all 4 speakers, do you suggest I set my earphones to "rear" and the speakers as "front" to get a more realistic sound effect.
I have the speakrs placed on the table in front of me.
Thanks so much for your help, I was finally able to get what i wanted.


Sarosh


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#13
June 5, 2006 at 10:42:15

Hi,
Thanks to your suggestions I tried something else. I got out another set of old speakers and connected them as the "rear out". I was able to get game sound on all 4 speakers. However, this worked for one game and not for the other. With need for speed most wanted I was able to get all 4 speakers to give out sound, but with Full Spectrum Warrior only the front two speakers gave out sound.
However, you have still given me the exact solution I need. Thanks very much for your help and time.

Sarosh


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#14
June 6, 2006 at 00:29:23

Hi dude,
Just wanted to say thanks very much for your time. This is the first time I have actually understood abotu the various audio jacks and how they can be used and stuff.
Thanks a lot.

Sarosh


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