sony viao pcv-rx 650

Sony vaio pcv-rx650 / Vaio pcv-rx650
August 7, 2009 at 22:27:54
Specs: Windows tinyxp, 512 ram ddr
hi, i got a one mebbe two questions, depending on the answer to the first one
ok my old pc died and i had to switch to my back-up which has a nvidia tnt2 riva model 64/model 64 pro graphics card which needs the drivers updated on it, it'll update to version 61.77, however when i attempt to update past that to v. 71.89 it says the hardware isnt compatible with it, even though thats what the nvidia site says is needed, are there updates between those 2 that i need to do first? or does anyone know where i can find the proper driver updates for this card?
because until i can get that done i cant play my game (city of heroes) and well im addicted to it =(
next question, if i need to upgrade my graphics card on here 1: can it be switched out and upgraded? and 2: what would be compatible with this pc and able to run said game? pleeeeease help, im at my wits end
oh and a p4 processor

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August 8, 2009 at 10:57:33
" old pc died..."

What were the symptoms? In most cases you can get a computer working again for not much money.
E.g. Failing or dead power supplies are common, and often if you replace the power supply with a used or new one, there's a good chance the system will work fine.
Did you change which ram you had installed in it? If so, not all ram is 100% compatible with your mboard - in the worst cases of incompatibilty the mboard WILL NOT BOOT and the system appears to be dead when that ram is installed.

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Partial Specs


XP Home
4X AGP 3D Graphics hardware acc
(nVidia TNT2 M64 32mb installed)
P4 1.6ghz
400mhz FSB
512mb PC2100 DDR ram, can install up to 1gb (total - max. two 512mb modules)
(the main chipset is probably rated for no more than PC2100 - 266mhz - ram, but some vendors list PC2700 ram for it - e.g. Crucial - however faster ram will run at 266mhz, max.)
DVD-rom, CD-RW drives
Floppy drive
Power requirements 3A @ 110 volts - therefore the power supply capacity is well under 300 watts, since they're not 100% efficient (I would guess 250 watts) .

You have a relatively old system, and an old graphics card.
They were probably made way back shortly after XP was first released.
The mboard AGP slot is probably only 4X or 1X/2X/4X capable

Your problem with the nVidia video drivers is typical - it is well known nVidia usually does NOT fix video driver (or main chipset driver) versions even when problems with them are reported to nVidia - you're usually stuck with using the newest version that works properly with the graphics chipset the card is using.
However, it MAY be you have to install a Microsoft .Net Framework version in order to use the newer drivers and/or associated software, BEFORE you install the drivers (you certainly do for newer ATI chipsets, if you install Catalyst) - see the installation directions or the release notes for the driver version.

Your video card (apparently your mboard does not have onboard video; onboard video is a display adapter but it is NOT a card) must meet the minimum requirements for a graphics adapter that the game you're using requires.
It's likely the ancient video card you're using won't meet the minimum specs for recent or fairly recent games, even if you install the latest drivers, because it has only 32mb of onboard ram. Sometimes there are non-default settings in the game itself you can use for the video resolution and number of colors that will allow you to use an older less adequate video card (use a lower resolution, lower number of colors for the best frames per second rates), but that may not help for this old video card.

You could install a video card with a newer video chipset that DOES meet or exceed the minumum requirements for the game. However, the speed of your CPU may also NOT meet the minimum requirements for a game.
If you want to upgrade the cpu, there is only limited info about that.
Apparently you have Sony motherboard A8059707A.
In most cases, mboards in brand name systems were NOT made by the brand name builder - they were supplied to the brand name builder by a major mboard maker and merely have the brand name builder's bios version on them. I have found no such info about your mboard. In some, but not all, cases, if you open up your case and look at the mboard, it MAY have an obvious model / Revision or Version number and, maybe, the brand (other than Sony), printed in larger characters on it somewhere - e.g. between the slots or in the center of the mboard - if you see that and tell us what you see, we may be able to find you better information about your mboard and which specific cpus you can upgrade it with.
Other than that, I found this limited info ....
Cpus up to 2.2ghz were used, in probably the same mboard:
It doesn't specify which specific cpus. The prices there are outrageous for the faster cpus - you can probably find a used one elsewhere for a lot less, if it can be determined which specific cpus will work in your mboard.
In any case, the max. cpu is probably 2.2ghz for your mboard.

If the cpu speed meets the minimum requirements for a game, but the video card doesn't, you could install a video card with a newer video chipset that DOES meet or exceed the minumum requirements for the game.

Most if not all AGP cards that are marketed as 8X AGP capable are actually 4X/8X capable and will work in your mboard even if it's AGP slot only supports 4X AGP. When you go to the web site of the card manufacturer, usually it is stated somewhere the chipset is 4X/8X capable - if you don't find that, any maker's card that uses the same video chioset has the same AGP capabilities - it may say 4X/8X on another maker's web site.

However, some mboards with 4X or 4X/8X AGP capability are NOT compatible with 1X/2X AGP capable cards - if you use a card with 1X/2X/4X AGP capability, or 1X/2X/4X /8X AGP capabilty in such a mboard, if you install such a card, you will damage the card and/or the AGP circuits, and/or other mboard circuits.
A clue is - if your present card has 1X/2X/4X capability when you look up it's specs on the card manufacturer's, or nVidia's (for the chipset), web site, then you can use 1X/2X/4X AGP capable, or 1X/2X/4X /8X AGP capable video cards in your mboard. E.g. I don't know much about vNidia video chipsets, but for ATI video chipset cards, if it's chipset model is 9500 or higher, or the chipset is newer than that, it does not have 1X/2X AGP capability or support.

Your system also had two available PCI slots when new. If you have at least one PCI slot available, if you get and install a PCI video card, they are also available with newer video chipsets, but it's performance probably won't be as good overall as an AGP card running at 4X.

As I noted above:

"Power requirements 3A @ 110 volts - therefore the power supply capacity is well under 300 watts, since they're not 100% efficient."

The capacity, in watts, and in amps at +12v and +5v, is probably printed on a label on the power supply when you examine it - if it isn't obvious, you may have to remove the power supply to find the label - it's probably on it somewhere.

You MAY need to get a PS with more capacity when you upgrade your video card, as well.

Your power supply must have at least the minumum capacity required to support a system with the graphics card you are using installed, or the max graphics card you might install in the future.
(Onboard video - video built into the mboard - IS NOT A CARD!)
You can go to the video card maker's web site and look up the specs for the model - often under system requirements - the minimum PS wattage, and, more important, the minimum amperage the PS must supply at 12v is stated. If you don't find that, any card with the same video chipset including any letters after the model number has very similar minimum PS requirements.

NOTE that PCI video cards usually require less power supply capacity than AGP cards, and AGP cards that don't require an extra power connector from the PS (ones with older chipsets) require less power than ones that do.

If you do need to replace the power supply, you can usually replace it with any decent standard sized standard ATX PS with the same capacity or greater.

Standard (PS/2) power supply size - 86mm high, 150mm wide, 140mm deep, or 3 3/8" h x 5 7/8" w x 5 1/2" d , or very close to that, though the depth can be more or less for some PSs.

Don't buy an el-cheapo PS.
See response 3 in this:

If you don't want to spend any money and don't have any better used power supply or used video card you can install, yours or from someone you know, buy older games that your system DOES support the minimum reqirements for - they're easily available where you can buy software and quite cheap.

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August 9, 2009 at 02:23:51
groovy, ty for the prompt answer, looks like i gotta spend a bit of cash friday when i get paid lol, when i do the installs and such i'll post and let you know how it goes

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August 9, 2009 at 11:00:38
OK, sounds good.

More Notes

" is well known nVidia usually does NOT fix video driver (or main chipset driver) versions even when problems with them are reported to nVidia ..."

ATI, or rather, these days the ATI division of AMD (both accessed at, on the other hand, if they get enough reports of problems, almost always eventually either fixes the problems in a version for an ATI video or main chipset, or removes the version from their web site and come out with a newer one that fixes the problems (they don't list any older version on their web site that does not work properly for the vast majority of cases). (Some older mboards have ATI main chipsets. When ATI later merged with AMD, the existing ATI main chipsets acquired AMD model numbers.)

You have to install a Microsoft .Net Framework version in order to use the newer drivers and associated software, BEFORE you install the drivers for newer ATI chipsets, if you install Catalyst, which is in the default software and drivers installation - see the installation directions or the release notes for the Catalyst version.

If you don't want to use Catalyst, you may not need to install it, and in that case you don't need to install a specific Microsoft .Net Framework version for it.
If you need features Catalyst provides that are missing when you don't install it but you don't want to use it, there are Omega Radeon video drivers available on the web - fully approved of by ATI but specific support for the software is on the Omega web site - the video drivers include a Control Panel rather than Catalyst, and the Control Panel does everything or almost everything Catalyst does without needing a.Net Framework version to be installed . If the video card has additional features you need to support - e.g. video capture and/or it has an integrated TV tuner, you can install standalone drivers and software for that, available on the AMD web site on the same page, further down, where you can get the default all in one installation.

Omega video drivers, for both ATI (Radeon) and nVidia chipsets
You MAY find newer drivers than the ones that don't install properly for your present card there. It appears he slightly modifies existing ATI and nVidia driver versions.

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