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Name: renxwar
Date: September 23, 2003 at 20:50:42 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Professional
CPU/Ram: AMD Athlon XP2600+ / 512M
Comment:

I got a new maxtor 30gig 7200rpm hd (diamond-something..?) and in BIOS it gives me the option to enable S.M.A.R.T for the hard-drive, and in startup my hard-drive comes up and says S.M.A.R.T capable, but disabled..

Should I enable this? What exactly does it do? Thanks in advance.



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Response Number 1
Name: JMano808
Date: September 23, 2003 at 21:03:50 Pacific
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Dont enable this, as it will slow your HDD down. Smart is a disk caching utility. Really not needed at all. Its rather old too.

J^


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Response Number 2
Name: renxwar
Date: September 23, 2003 at 21:04:40 Pacific
Reply:

Ok, thanks for the quick response.


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Response Number 3
Name: JMano808
Date: September 23, 2003 at 21:14:56 Pacific
Reply:

Also you've got XP pro which has its own built-in (Inhereted) disk caching system.
So no need for SMART.

J^


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Response Number 4
Name: SkipCox
Date: September 23, 2003 at 22:46:45 Pacific
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I thought the smart option in bios was to monitor harddrive health:

Self-Monitoring Analysis and Reporting Technology (SMART)

In an effort to help users avoid data loss, some drive manufacturers are now incorporating logic into their drives that acts as an "early warning system" for pending drive problems. This system is called Self-Monitoring Analysis and Reporting Technology or SMART. The hard disk's integrated controller monitors various aspects of its own performance and makes available status information to any software that wants to probe the drive and look at it. One popular program that will monitor this status is Symantec's Norton Utilities suite.

SMART works by monitoring certain performance characteristics inside the disk, and looking for trends that indicate a gradual worsening in reliability that could indicate an imminent failure. The actual way that SMART is implemented is usually a function of what the manufacturer wants to do, and the specifics of the drive itself. One example of what SMART could do is that it could monitor the average number of ECC error corrections it must perform per sector read from the disk. Based on statistical knowledge and examining trends over time, it could be possible to predict the formation of bad sectors or total drive failure.

The value of SMART is still questionable. The problem with it is that it really cannot detect many types of drive failures. Also, consider that a drive showing up with a SMART code indicating pending failure during the warranty period of the drive, will mean an expensive replacement for the manufacturer. For this reason, I think it likely that they will make the SMART routines pretty conservative, to make sure that hard disks that don't need replacing aren't. This will limit the usefulness of the technique compared to what it would be if they were more aggressive in detecting these failures.

I sort of view SMART as something that is nice to have, but not something that should be relied upon too heavily. It certainly is no replacement for proper hard disk care and maintenance, or routine and current backups.

That's from: http://www.tvdsb.on.ca/banting/cicp/hardware/PCGuide/ref/hdd/perf/qual_SMART.htm

That's how you get hdd temps and impending failure warnings when it's enabled. Most diagnostic utilities support smart now days.

Skip


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Response Number 5
Name: Zero Cool
Date: September 24, 2003 at 06:03:51 Pacific
Reply:

I have S.M.A.R.T enable on my 2 HDD, my system is very fast, should I disable it anyway


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Response Number 6
Name: ranchhand
Date: September 24, 2003 at 07:02:49 Pacific
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"If it ain't broke, don't fix it". If you are happy with your system now, and it's humming right along, let it be. You can always disable SMART any time you want.


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Response Number 7
Name: wanderer
Date: September 24, 2003 at 09:00:25 Pacific
Reply:

Enabling smart doesn't slow your hard drive down. In fact getting a warning that your drive is going to fail so you have time to backup your data can save the day.

Something is better than nothing.


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Response Number 8
Name: will
Date: September 24, 2003 at 12:03:17 Pacific
Reply:

Smart has to slow the system down somewhat because it's running code that checks every read from the drive to see if any errors were encountered and then logging those errors.


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Response Number 9
Name: rac
Date: September 24, 2003 at 13:57:01 Pacific
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Fact: Any performance impact of enabling SMART is negligible. You will never notice it. The benefits of running SMART can be enormous should you ever have an incipient hard drive problem.


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Response Number 10
Name: Zero Cool
Date: September 24, 2003 at 14:24:32 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for you response guys :)

Think it's easier to run some benchmarks, just to make sure lol

Zero Cool :)


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Response Number 11
Name: Zero Cool
Date: September 24, 2003 at 17:04:51 Pacific
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Ok, I have turned S.M.A.R.T off and I have seen a big improvement in speed, games load much faster as they are HDD intensive when loading, so the HDD must be running something in the background that is keeping a close eye on the drives condition, basically turn S.M.A.R.T on and you loose a little performance

If you are a PC user who uses HDD intensive tasks, turn off S.M.A.R.T as it should improve speed

Zero Cool



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Response Number 12
Name: JMano808
Date: September 24, 2003 at 19:49:22 Pacific
Reply:

Damn, I knew I was right sorry for the wrong response regarding SMART (thought it was something else for a minute, thanks Skip for clearing that up... : ) ) and what it was but I knew it had performance hit on your HDD.

J^


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Response Number 13
Name: santillana
Date: October 30, 2003 at 19:16:09 Pacific
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Please dont confuss S.M.A.R.T. (a hardware monitoring tool, which has a negligible impact on performance) to "SMARTDRIVE" an old (D.O.S. 6.xx) software utility which DID slow down a system. SMARTDRIVE was intended to be a caching utility, a try Microsoft did to put in the box a caching Utility of the kind lots existed at the time. Forgive my poor english cheers from Mexico


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