Slow Boot with HP pc help

April 25, 2008 at 09:53:30
Specs: Xp, not sure

Exactly what it does, My girl has a Hp Pc with 1gig ram, 180gig HD with a pen 4 2.8 processer. problem with it is Slow boot around 10 min boot. After it is booted the Cpu is slow take 2 mins to open the start menu, So I was like ok, So I pulled out my extra HD that has only XP loaded on it, little 30gig HD, took her HD out and plugged mine in , still slow boot and slowness after windows is booted up, ram is good pulled it out and stuck her HD and ram into mine, ran fine, fast and normal.
This only started about 2 weeks ago her brother wanted to upload some music from his Mp3 player and its been down hill ever since, I have checked the BIo's its set to fast boot, and everything else is default, Oh and The bio's has the latest version #. So I am kinda stuck. I am no computer person, just from what I know and what classes I took the first few weeks of in school but thats it.
Don't have the MB model/make or anything else here at the moment will update later. But any one have any Ideas, I checked the jumpers and its set on master, even fooled around with it setting it to cable select and such. I donno little help please lol thanks yall

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April 25, 2008 at 12:25:14

What happens between the time you turn on the computer and you finally get into windows?

Go to start> settings> control panel> system> hardware> device manager. Are there any yellow or red punctuation marks there? While in Device Manager go IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers> primary IDE channel> advanced settings. What is the current transfer mode?

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April 25, 2008 at 12:34:21

sits on a Blue HP screen with f1 boot setup delete-setup f10-system recovery.

And yes when I have MY HD plugged in its missing some drivers for the MB, so I have to boot to safe mode when My HD is connected, WHen her's is boots windows normaly just slow. So check on the transfer mode of the Ide channel, anything else ?
Gotta take notes with me, since Cpu is not here, and wont be over there till later on.

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April 25, 2008 at 13:01:35

So is the computer setup to dual boot XP/XP? If the harddrives are IDE as I suspect they are the jumper settings are important. Removing one drive from a cable may impact the operation of the other drive. HP most likely sets all drive jumpers to CS (cable select).

Post back stated if this is correct or incorrect.

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April 25, 2008 at 13:09:46

No I do not have both HD's Active at once If one is Installed and powered, the other is disconnected entirely and not connected to power. So if mine is in, hers is out, and so on and so forth.

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April 25, 2008 at 13:16:15

oh forgot, ran Ccleaner on it deleteing all temp,cookies, ya know the fun deal. and ran norton and avg over night , didnt pull up any bugs but never know.

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April 25, 2008 at 13:39:21

Slow boot can be caused by the BIOS or Windows configuring attached hardware. Being this is an HP I am not sure what if any BIOS options are available. Enabling ACPI in the BIOS allows Windows to configure the hardware.

Disconnecting and reconnecting harddrives is not a good idea. You may have damaged the IDE cables. The connector on the end of the cable has very fine pins that penetrate into the insulation and make contact with the wire. There are 40 data wires and is a newer cable 40 additional shielding wires.

That is why I suggested you check to see if the controller is operating in one of the DMA modes.

If you desire to each have your own harddrive with operating system on it you can setup a dual boot. This would present you with two boot options. That would be preferable to what you currently do.

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April 25, 2008 at 13:55:19

yes true. but my HD and hers do not use the old 40pin cables they use interface cables. But i gotta kick out of here, ill check out the acpi and see if i can come across anything or any aditional information I post , thanks for the tips Hill. Just post if you come across anything else or get any Ideas, I'm guessing the problem is in the BIO's its self, ill try flashing them and reinstalling the latest updates. let me know. Peace

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April 25, 2008 at 14:00:39

"they use interface cables". What do the cables look like. Look at Fig. 2 at the link below. Which do you use SATA or IDE ATA (PATA)?

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April 28, 2008 at 08:41:10

The red, with black ends, SATA, should of said that in the last post forgot about it

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April 28, 2008 at 09:45:27

Care must be taken with SATA data cables. folding them too sharply can affect thruput. I am not inferring that is your problem, although it is possible.

You MAY be able to test the thruput of the controller.

Go to Device Manager> IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers> Serial controller> primary or the primary IDE controller. Look for speed test or DMA Mode. If speed test is available run it. Post back.

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