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Name: alexanrs
Date: June 6, 2005 at 16:52:01 Pacific
Subject: SiS730 chipset + GeForce 4 mx AGP
OS: Win98se
CPU/Ram: Duron 1.2GHz+160 mb ram
Comment:

Hi everyone,
recently I got a GeForce 4 MX AGP graphics card, and I'm trying to install it on my computer. I plugged it on my AGP slot and turned on the PC... nothing happened... For now I'm using my onboard card. I entered the BIOS setup and I found a "Primary graphics adapter" option: it has two options, "PCI" and "OnBoard AGP (default)". I've tried with both but it does not make any difference: the computer still uses the onboard card.
I don't know exactly my motherboard model, but I know it has a SiS 730s chipset. I got the following information from SiSoftware Sandra 2004 (the last that runs on Win98):
SiSoftware Sandra

System Chassis
Manufacturer : Uknown Chassis Manufacture
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No
Version : Version 1.00
Serial Number : 1234567890
Asset Tag : 0123ABC

Mainboard
Manufacturer : Elitegroup (ECS)
MP Support : No
System BIOS : 62-0913-001131-00101111-071595-SiS730S

Memory Controller
Error Detection Method : ECC
Error Correction Capability : 1-bit
Supported/Current Memory Interleave : 1-way / 1-way
Number of Memory Slots : 4
Maximum Installable Memory : 512MB
Maximum Module Size : 128MB
Supported STD/FPM/(B)EDO Speeds : 70ns, 60ns
Supported Memory Types : STD, FPM, EDO, Parity, ECC, SIMM
Supported Memory Voltages : +3.3V

Physical/BIOS Memory Banks
ROW-0 (RASL-2 RASL-6) : 128MB DIMM SDRAM double-bank
ROW-1 (RASL-2 RASL-4) : 32MB DIMM SDRAM double-bank
ROW-2 : Empty
ROW-3 : Empty

Chipset 1
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS730 CPU to PCI Bridge
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB i2c/SMBus
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 100MHz (200MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 2x 100MHz / 1x 100MHz
Width : 64-bit
IO Queue Depth : 3 request(s)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 128MB SDRAM 3-3-3-6CL
Bank 1 : 32MB SDRAM 3-3-3-6CL
Shared Memory : 16MB
Width : 64-bit
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module 1 : 128MB 8x(8Mx16) SDRAM PC133U-333-5412 (CL3 up to 133MHz) (CL2 up to 100MHz)
Memory Module 2 : F10C0000 32MB 16x(2Mx8) SDRAM PC100-322-622 (CL3 up to 100MHz) (CL2 up to 83MHz)

Environment Monitor 1
Model : ITE IT8705/12 ISA
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 31.0°C / 87.8°F
CPU Temperature : 42.0°C / 107.6°F
Power / Aux Temperature : 47.0°C / 116.6°F

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
CPU Fan Speed : 5819rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU Voltage : 1.78V
Aux Voltage : 2.48V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.34V
+5V Voltage : 4.76V
+12V Voltage : 12.11V
-12V Voltage : 0.06V
-5V Voltage : -5.76V
Standby Voltage : 5.03V
Battery Voltage : 2.03V

AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.00
Speed : 2x
Fast-Writes Enabled : No
Side Band Enabled : Yes
Aperture Size : 64MB

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.10
Number of Bridges : 1
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (33MHz)
Multiplier : 1/3x

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS PCI to ISA Bridge (LPC Bridge)
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Speed : 7MHz

USB Controller 1
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : SiS 5595 Internal SMBus
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

Expansion Slot(s)
PCI1 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Full-Length Used (Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS PCI to ISA Bridge (LPC Bridge))
PCI2 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Full-Length Available (Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) Virtual PCI to PCI Bridge)
PCI3 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Full-Length

Port Connector
USB - Def : SSA SCSI - Mini Centronics / DB-25 pin male

Performance Tips
Warning 2533 : Disabled host controllers are present. Check BIOS settings.
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.
Warning 2544 : System/Video shared memory greatly reduces performance. Use external video card.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

SiSoftware Sandra

General Information
Manufacturer : American Megatrends Inc.
Version : 062710
Date : 07/15/97
Plug & Play Version : 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.30
ID : FC 01 00
(EE)PROM Size : 256kB (2Mbit)

General Capabilities
Can be Updated/Flashed : Yes
Can be Shadowed : Yes
Is Socketed : Yes
Supports Plug & Play : Yes
Supports ESCD : Yes
Supports Enhanced Disk Drive : Yes
NEC PC-98 Spec Compatible : No

Power Management Features
Supports APM : Yes
Supports ACPI : Yes
Supports Smart Battery : No

Boot Features
Supports Selective Booting : Yes
Supports CD/DVD Boot : Yes
Supports PCMCIA/CardBus Boot : No
Supports LS-120 Boot : Yes
Supports ZIP Boot : Yes
Supports i2o Boot : No
Supports FireWire/1394 Boot : No
Supports BIOS Boot Block : Yes
Supports Interactive Network Boot : No

Performance Tips
Tip 201 : System BIOS is old. Check for an update.
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 212 : BIOS can be shadowed so check whether it is.
Tip 211 : BIOS is flash-able and socketed so it can be upgraded when needed.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.


I think a BIOS Upgrade may solve my problem (I read it somewhere), but I'm unable to find a suitable one. I'd really be grateful if someone helps me.


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Response Number 1
Name: Janos
Date: June 6, 2005 at 20:18:43 Pacific
Subject: SiS730 chipset + GeForce 4 mx AGP
Reply: (edit)

Go to the mother boards web site..

Track donw the model of your mother baord and find the latest bios version available.

At the same time you should be able to get the last version's of all the appropriate hardware drivers as well.

If not you can find most drivers at www.driverguide.com

IF IT AINT BROKE, DONT FIX IT

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Response Number 2
Name: Janos
Date: June 6, 2005 at 20:21:17 Pacific
Subject: SiS730 chipset + GeForce 4 mx AGP
Reply: (edit)

If you isntall Everest home that program should give you the model of the mother board also...

If not the model number should be printed on the board itself, usualy around the cpu and ram sockets or in between the pci slots.

From time to time they will also print eh model number allong the edge of the board also..

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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: June 7, 2005 at 05:47:54 Pacific
Subject: SiS730 chipset + GeForce 4 mx AGP
Reply: (edit)

Your board make/model number is pretty much staring you in the face. Elitegroup (ECS) w/SiS730S chipset, so it's probably the K7SEM V3.0C. Do you have the manual? If so, read it over...if not, go to the website & download a copy.

Does this look like your board:

http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7sem_v3.html

Enter your product info here & download the manual & any drivers that you may need:

http://www.ecsusa.com/downloads/downloads_main.cfm?to=Motherboard

Seems like a lot of other people have had the same problem with that board:

http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/16200/

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Response Number 4
Name: alexanrs
Date: June 7, 2005 at 18:28:17 Pacific
Subject: SiS730 chipset + GeForce 4 mx AGP
Reply: (edit)

Everest home told me my motherboard is a PCChips M810LR. I downloaded the lastest bios update but I had no luck on getting my motherboard to detect my card... The onboard one is still used, form the POST screen to my OS... Any ideas?


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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: June 7, 2005 at 21:23:27 Pacific
Subject: SiS730 chipset + GeForce 4 mx AGP
Reply: (edit)

Since you have 2 different softwares telling you it's 2 different boards, you should have just opened the case & looked for a model number on the board, rather than flashing an ECS board with a PCChips BIOS (yea, I know...many ECS & PCChips boards are "clones"). Still not a smart move...you're lucky your board works at all.

If you haven't already done so, check this site:

http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/16200/

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Response Number 6
Name: alexanrs
Date: June 8, 2005 at 12:58:07 Pacific
Subject: SiS730 chipset + GeForce 4 mx AGP
Reply: (edit)

Checked the onboard features and they match M810LR's (Onboard Sound is different in these two boards, for example). To eliminate my doubts, I opened my pc and it is really a PCChips M810LR.


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Response Number 7
Name: alexanrs
Date: June 11, 2005 at 15:53:25 Pacific
Subject: SiS730 chipset + GeForce 4 mx AGP
Reply: (edit)

Never mind... Got it working... Plugged and then unplugged... Interesting, as it was not the first time I did that (although the first since I upgraded my bios)...


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