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Should I Buy A Computer?

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Name: Chad Johnson (by ChadJohnson)
Date: August 11, 2004 at 20:52:13 Pacific
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Should I buy a new computer by the end of the year? I have 1GB Corsair TwinX RAM, and nothing else. Right now I have a 533 Celeron.

Should I go ahead and get a 64-bit machine so I have one for the near future, or are they about to come out with some new revolutionary product?



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Response Number 1
Name: SamZee
Date: August 11, 2004 at 22:38:00 Pacific
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Heheheh, ok first of all... Lose the Celeron. Not only are celerons bad.... but 533mghz..... thats pretty bad, heheh. That processor shouldn't even come close to that RAM. Definitely get like atleast a Pentium 4 2.6. Because by the end of the year the price on that will go down. Or get like an Athlon 2800+
I find it funny that you have this really good RAM and a lot of it.... and at the same time you have a 533 Celary (celeron, I like to call them celary)

Thats someone saying... "Yeah I got a 233mghz pentium 1, with 32 megs of RAM, 6 gig Hard Drive, 16X CD-ROM, integrated 8 bit sound card, Oh and an ATI Radeon X880 Platium..."

If ya know what I'm sayin....
If you are you are going build yourself a comp.... keep everything within the same nature.

:)

____-SamZee-____


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Response Number 2
Name: heropsycho
Date: August 12, 2004 at 00:19:17 Pacific
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Now's as good a time to buy as any. Athlon 64's are fairly inexpensive, so I'd get an Athlon 64 2800.

MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!


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Response Number 3
Name: Symbios
Date: August 12, 2004 at 01:48:34 Pacific
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Yeah, I agree with heropsycho.

I don't think AMD is planning anything big for the end of this year. And even if AMD did come out with a "revolutionary product" by the end of the year it would be extremly expensive.

Symbios Y!


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Response Number 4
Name: angrymen2001
Date: August 12, 2004 at 03:24:28 Pacific
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Of course, if your current computer is doing everything you want it to, and you're happy with it, why bother? Just being the devil's advocate here as there are a lot of people out there who want to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading. My opinion is if you don't need it don't get it. But, if you do need something newer (as the others already told you) right now is a good time to buy

When all else fails beat the $%!* out of it!!!


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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: August 12, 2004 at 06:06:03 Pacific
Reply:

You can't run DDR with a 533 Celery anyway, so I assume your RAM is just sitting in a box somewhere waiting to be used? Why not build on a budget? You could build a great AMD Barton/nForce2 rig for less than $300


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Response Number 6
Name: Chad Johnson (by ChadJohnson)
Date: August 12, 2004 at 06:35:05 Pacific
Reply:

Yea my brother kind bought this RAM along with an Athlon 64 FX mobo/processor, and now he decided he doesn't want the RAM (because he wants to wait for DDR2), and he owes me money so he thought he'd give it to me. It's sitting in a box.

The only reason that I'm hesitant is because I know they're releasing PCI Express and DDR2 (and maybe other technology) into the market soon. But I know DDR2 still has some work to be done on it.

What I'm getting at is should I wait until these things are fully up and the technology has matured? (How long do you think it will be anyway?)


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Response Number 7
Name: Chad Johnson (by ChadJohnson)
Date: August 12, 2004 at 06:38:34 Pacific
Reply:

Also, I've noticed that the processors are so fast that they've had to slow down in production and let the other components catch up.


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Response Number 8
Name: SamZee
Date: August 12, 2004 at 09:52:26 Pacific
Reply:

Hmmmmmmm.... I'm not sure about that one....
But of course it depends on what you mean when you say.

"I've noticed that the processors are so fast that they've had to slow down in production and let the other components catch up."

I haven't heard that said..... but I know that there are plenty of very high quality hardware components that are good enough, if not, then more than good enough, for fast processors.

Best RAM there is..... PC2 5300.... thats insane.... Best Video card...... we all know that one, some may argue it, but they cant argue the facts..... ATI Radeon X880 Platinum.... I dont know about the X880, but the x800 can shift 8.1 gigapixels a second.... Clock Speed 520mghz.... Memory Clock 1.2 ghz.... Thats insane...
Hard Drives... We all know the Western Digital Raptor with 10,000 RPM... (there might be better ones out there)
SoundCard.. Audigy2 ZS Platinum Pro 7.1 probably...

So yeah you get the idea.... point being, there is no hardware that we dont, have, to harness all the power of the fastest processors.

____-SamZee-_____


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Response Number 9
Name: heropsycho
Date: August 12, 2004 at 11:18:01 Pacific
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"The only reason that I'm hesitant is because I know they're releasing PCI Express and DDR2 (and maybe other technology) into the market soon. But I know DDR2 still has some work to be done on it."

You're missing the point. You have DDR RAM. Also notice the fastest Athlon 64 FX kills Intel platforms, despite the fact the FX uses DDR. PCIe is not going to be significantly faster than AGP for quite sometime. It's a marketing ploy to get your money at this point as they introduce the products. Don't be fooled! They did the same thing when AGP came around at first, and they did the same thing when DDR/Rambus came around. Eventually those technologies ended up becoming worthwhile a year or two later. By that time the components had changed drastically to the point that the old implementations were as useless as their predecessors. (AGP to AGP2x/4x/8x, PC1600 to PC2100, 2700, 3200, etc.)

In this stuff, you can wait forever for new technology. Go get an Athlon 64 or an XP motherboard, CPU, fan, and upgrade when you need to.

MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!


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Response Number 10
Name: Chad Johnson (by ChadJohnson)
Date: August 12, 2004 at 13:18:22 Pacific
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Yea I agree about the marketing ploy. I mean those new technologies can't be THAT much faster than what we have right now.

The only thing I don't agree about is the harddrive speed. It takes the computer one nanosecond to retrieve data from memory, while it takes about one microsecond to retrieve data from the harddrive. If harddrives were solid state, I'm sure a number of things would be much faster.

Last thing - I am kind of teetering between the fastest Athlon XP and an AMD 64. Right now I run Windows, but maybe in the future I'll get into Linux. Would a 64-bit processor run a 32-bit operating system any faster (would it even use all the pins)? Would there even be any advantages?


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Response Number 11
Name: SteveWalsh
Date: August 13, 2004 at 19:09:01 Pacific
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i buy that ram from you... man that is some juicy ram


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