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Name: KevinS.
Date: January 15, 2007 at 16:44:55 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
OS: Windows XP Home Edition
CPU/Ram: AMD Sempron 3100+ 1GB PC
Model/Manufacturer: Emachines D3107
Comment:

Is there a way to switch shared video memory to dedicated video memory?
Here Are My System Specs:
CPU: AMD Sempron™ 3100+ Processor
(1.8GHz, , )
Operating System: Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Home (SP2)
Chipset: VIA K8M800 chipset
Memory: 1GB DDR (1 × 1GB) 400MHz (PC3200)
Expandable to 2GB
Hard Drive: 100GB HDD (7200rpm, 2MB cache)
Optical Drive: 48x CD-RW/DVD 18x DVD-RW
Combo Drive Media Reader: 8-in-1 digital media manager (Secure Digital™ (SD), Smart Media, Micro Drive, Memory Stick®, Memory Stick PRO, Compact Flash, Multimedia Card, USB 2.0)
Video: S3 UniChrome™ Pro Integrated Graphics
64MB DDR shared video memory
AGP slot available for upgrade
Sound: AC '97 Audio, Dolby 5.1 (6-Channel)
Network: 10/100Mbps integrated Ethernet LAN
Modem: 56K ITU V.92-ready Fax/Modem (with RJ-11 port)
Peripherals: Standard multifunction keyboard, 2-button wheel mouse, amplified stereo speakers Ports/Other: 5 USB 2.0 Ports (1 in Media Reader, 4 in back), 1 VGA External Connector, 1 Serial, 1 Parallel, 2 PS/2, 5 audio ports (2 in front, 3 in back)
Dimensions: 14.25"H x 7.25"W x 16"D
Weight: 22.5lbs (PC only, no packaging)
MB: MB,MS-7142 K8MMV 104759
CPU: CPU,AMD SEMPRON 3100 1.8GHZ 1600FSB 256K 754P
CPU Fan Type: FAN,H/S AMD3100+ 754P
HDD: HDD,100GB 7200RPM
Memory: MEM, DDR-RAM 1GB (Max. 2GB)
ODD1: COMBO,N3LC CDRW48X32X48+DVD16
Modem: MODEM,FAX CONX RSLG V.92 56K 56PRC CCOM
Power Supply: PS,300 WATT
LAN: LAN, 10/100 Integrated
Multimedia Reader: MEDIA READER,8IN1
Mouse: MOUSE, SILVER WHEEL, BLACK GLOSS
Keyboard Model: KB,9908 ES105K,PS/2,EM BLACK
Speaker: SPEAKER,EM 2.0 SILVER NO LOGO AMP
Video: Video, integrated
Chassis: Chassis,Nexgen 3 MAIN FRAME


For Motherboard Information, Go To http://www.directron.com/k8mmv.html...
MSI K8MM-V (MS-7142-010) Socket 754 MicroATX Motherboard, Dual DDR400, AGP8X, SATA RAID, VGA & LAN, 6ch Audio.


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Response Number 1
Name: Sabertooth
Date: January 15, 2007 at 16:58:25 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
Reply: (edit)

"AGP slot available for upgrade"

If you are doing this to aid gaming on that Emchine, get a real graphics card - there are many good cards still in the AGP format to choose from.

How To Ask Questions The Smart Way


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Response Number 2
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 15, 2007 at 17:13:00 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
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With integrated graphics shared memory IS dedicated to the video.


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Response Number 3
Name: jefro
Date: January 15, 2007 at 18:32:56 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
Reply: (edit)

The answer is no, unless you see it in the documentation somewhere.

I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you goober.


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Response Number 4
Name: KevinS.
Date: January 15, 2007 at 18:33:04 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
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I have been looking at grapics cards, but I don't know if I feel like messing around (since the system runs perfectly.) I really only have the problem with this integrated grapics card on a couple games. Thank you very much for the help and if I do get a new grapics card could anyone recomened me one for under $100 that supports OpenGL, Pixel Shader, and directx 9.0c. I'd also like one that has at least 128mb of video memory.


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Response Number 5
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: January 15, 2007 at 21:51:34 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
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"Is there a way to switch shared video memory to dedicated video memory?"

The only way to do that with a mboard with onboard video is to install a graphics card in a slot - e.g. in the AGP slot in this case - in which case the onboard video is usually auto disabled and settings in the bios to do with shared ram are ignored by the bios and the mboard, and all the ram is used by Windows.
Some bioses require you to select onboard video or a card in a slot, but there is no other setting to disable the onboard video.

Sharing ram with the onboard video greatly reduces the ram's max bandwidth - using a video card instead enables the bandwidth to achieve it's maximum because the ram is no longer shared, and because of that your computer can run better. Sysoft Sandra has a ram bandwidth test that can show you that.


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Response Number 6
Name: cliffpage
Date: January 16, 2007 at 05:57:45 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
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A proper graphics card gives stunning 3d game graphics compared to integrated, share memory graphics.
Even a relatively low cost 64mb card will give much much better performance than 64mb shared memory graphics.
And if you pay even more , the increase in enjoyment of 3d games can be even more stunning.
Anyone who plays 3d games should not stick with shared memory graphics.It just isn't any good.


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Response Number 7
Name: jam
Date: January 16, 2007 at 13:40:02 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
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eMachines are notorious for having weak power supplies & higher performance AGP cards require a direct PSU plug-in to supplement their power needs. I suggest you play it safe & go for something like this Radeon 9600XT for about $60 (shipped):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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Response Number 8
Name: KevinS.
Date: January 17, 2007 at 14:11:29 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
Reply: (edit)

Thanks! I now am really puting this new grapics card into deep thought about buying one.


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Response Number 9
Name: KevinS.
Date: January 18, 2007 at 17:20:16 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
Reply: (edit)

I was looking at this card. Is it any Good?

http://www.microcenter.com/byos/byo...

I was also looking at this one. Is this one any good?

http://www.microcenter.com/byos/byo...

Also, how good do composite video outputs work on these cards? How about S-Video?


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Response Number 10
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: January 18, 2007 at 22:10:04 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
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Either of those is better than your onboard video by far, but you could spend more and get better.
The technology of the first one is about three years old now; the second one is newer.

To get a true comparison you should go to the web sites of the manufacturer of the cards and find the mhz at which the video chipset runs at, compare the vertical refresh rates at the higher resolutions (higher is better), at least as high as you are prepared to go with the size of monitor you are using, and possibly the maximum frame rates (fps, more is better, 30fps minumum).


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Response Number 11
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: January 18, 2007 at 22:13:53 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
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"Also, how good do composite video outputs work on these cards? How about S-Video?"

On any video card, S-Video looks a tiny bit better than composite video, but it isn't all that noticable.


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Response Number 12
Name: KevinS.
Date: January 24, 2007 at 14:56:39 Pacific
Subject: Shared To Dedicated?
Reply: (edit)

Thanks! I will probably wait though until I can get one that supports DX10.


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