screen problem after adding 1GB RAM

November 19, 2010 at 11:57:43
Specs: Windows xp , 1g installed
I folowed thetech guys web page even getting same ram..installed swithched we do starting to boot up ,then lines, wide a first appear then v quickly it goes really crazy.then black. i treid refitting it again it happened. advent4211/msiwind is working fine when ram out.i upgraded bios before hand and formatted hd all drivers are up todate so in theiry i was hopeing for a nearly new machine os is win xp.any ideas pls.

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November 19, 2010 at 12:31:47
OMG! You do not have to upgrade the BIOS or format the HDD just to upgrade the RAM. The stick you bought appears to be incompatible. Are you 100% sure it's exactly the same? Same brand, same speed, same voltage, same timings?

You should have gotten decent brand name RAM, PC2-5300 aka DDR2-667, that runs at 1.8v.

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November 19, 2010 at 12:57:42
The Advent 4211 is almost identical to the MSI Wind.

Did you unplug the AC adapter to it AND remove the main battery BEFORE installing and removing the ram, at ALL times ?
If you didn't do BOTH, at ALL times, you may have damaged the new module !
The ram warranty doesn't cover that !

Your computer has an ATX mboard of some sort (all modern computers do). ATX mboards are ALWAYS powered in some places, even when the computer is NOT running, including some of the contacts in the ram slots, unless you have removed BOTH sources of power, on a laptop or netbook.

What ram module did you install ? What's it's part number ?

Not all ram modules will work in your mboard properly. You are supposed to look up which exact ram module part numbers you can use in your computer model, by using your make and model to search with, on a ram manufacturer's or distributor's web site that has a ram configurator or similar. Other part numbers may NOT work in your mboard properly.

The max ram supported by your model is PC-5300. If you installed ram faster than that, it can't run any faster than PC-5300 specs on your computer, and there's no guarantee it will work properly, unless you find oddball listings that list ram that is compatible with your model that list ram faster than your model supports, or unless you find a confirmation somewhere that someone else has installed a ram module with a certain part number and that module works fine in the same model.
Not all PC-5300 ram, or PC-6400 ram, will work properly in your model.

Most if not all PC-5300 ram uses the standard JEDEC specified 1.8 v.
Some PC-6400 ram uses a higher specified voltage - that ram may NOT work properly in your one ram slot, if the bios does not auto set and use the higher voltage. Some older mboards / bioses can't set it to a higher voltage, no matter what you do; some can but do NOT do that automatically - you have to set the voltage manually.

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November 19, 2010 at 13:02:54
hi .lol did didnt upgrade bios for the needed to fix holes and formatted hd as i was gonna run ubuntu too, getting bored of xp.every thing on yhe machine was running very good ,i pay attention to updating and keeping system clean.Im only novice wanting to learn more and this done me.I have a dell inspiron1501 which iv given a new lease of life upgrading it too 320hd 2g ram bios and drivers running win 7 32bit. but thats going and ubuntu 64 is going on.when i did ram on dell i went 512 to 2g. never done it before plenty black screens, i just kept taking the 1gigs out and swapping around with the very well now,it was the crazyness of the screen that concerned me.the ram is the same a pyn ddr2.are they any good tthen

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November 19, 2010 at 13:08:58
yes i never keep battery on as i use plug and socket power source.and you do need to remove these to take the whole of te back of to get to ram.pnyddr2667 cl5 is ram

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November 19, 2010 at 13:12:42
" pnyddr2667 cl5 is ram"

That's probably not the specific part number.

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November 19, 2010 at 13:17:46
hum if your right what would you advise pls.

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November 19, 2010 at 13:44:18
64aotftye8g17 is that the part number

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November 19, 2010 at 13:47:46
The PNY configurator:

It lists NO Advent laptop or netbook models.

I know from previous searching
See Response 9:
Advent 4211 = MSI Wind U100

MSI Wind U100

PNY partnumber Info. Capacity Type Quantity
SODI102GBN/5300/2-BX 2 GB SO DIMM 200-pin SODIMM 1

SODI101GBN/5300/2-BX 1 GB SO DIMM 200-pin SODIMM 1

Memory Information PC2-5300 667Mhz DDR2 SDRAM SO DIMM 200-pin

The only 1gb part numbers they list are the latter .

If you don't have that, or one of those, part number(s), then there's no guarantee it will work properly in your computer.

The part number is almost always printed right on the label on the module.

If you don't have that (those) part number(s), if you haven't already damaged it , you can return the ram, but if you bought online, you will have to pay for the shipping yourself, and you will probably only be credited with it's cost after it has been tested and found to be not damaged.
There may also be a fee deducted for testing, or a re-stocking fee that is deducted, whether you return it locally, or online .

I know from previous experience the PNY configurator sometimes lists modules a computer doesn't actually support.

In this case, I have found no info elsewhere that your model supports 2gb modules.


Crucial lists max 1gb pc2-5300 modules for Advent 4211:

Kingston has no Advent listings.
It lists max 1gb modules for MSI Wind U100

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November 19, 2010 at 14:11:38

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November 19, 2010 at 14:32:18
your brill pal ,iv got the wrong one its got , and hell they is hard too see 511 199 200-36-2 94 v-00625 on it. learnt a little more tonight, thank you soo much.

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November 19, 2010 at 14:41:08
thats it ..same i missing something ? what i get wrong

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November 19, 2010 at 14:49:19
do you think the machine would run on 3g.. i know they say 2max but they also said the same about alot of other comps inspiron being one and 4g is and has been done. why do they say thats the max....

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November 19, 2010 at 15:10:16
Sometimes over time the same module part number has fewer chips on the new modules, and in that case the module may not work properly in older mboards. I know of several Kingston desktop ram part numbers that applies to. Does yours have the same number of chips as in the pictures in the article mickliq pointed to?

If it does, then according to that article pointed to by mickliq, it should work fine.

New modules (that are compatible) are rarely "bad", but if they are you can't get them to work properly, right away.

You could try cleaning the contacts on the module, with a tissue or soft cloth, or use a tiny bit of isopropyl (rubbing) or methyl alcohol, or ethyl alcohol (vodka) on them, wipe them off (don't get it on the chips - e.g. I know from experience that isopropyl alcohol is absorbed into chips and can cause weird symptoms that may not go away for many hours), or blowing out the ram slot.
DO NOT touch the contacts on the module after you have cleaned them. Fingerprints cause problems eventually.

If you truly did disconnect both the AC adapter and main battery when you're fiddling with the ram (some will fib about that) then it could be you didn't have the ram installed quite right at least one time, and it may have been damaged when you booted then. The contacts on SODIMMS are VERY close together, so it doesn't take must mis-alignment for them to be damaged.
One thing new modules are extremely unlikely to have is visible damage in the contact areas. Use something to magnify there on both sides of the module - if you see damage, then it's likely you un-intentionally damaged the module.

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November 19, 2010 at 15:42:26
You can't exceed the built in hardware max ram capacity limit that the main chipset supports (or on some newer computers, that the cpu supports - the memory controller is in the cpu) by using any software or bios update, and rarely there's also a hardware limitation because there are fewer ram slots than what the main chipset (or cpu) can support.
Sometimes the computer's original manufacturer's specs are wrong, and the main chipset (or cpu) actually supports you using higher capacity modules, but that's been rare for newer computers.

According to what I've found, other than the questionable PNY configurator info, the max you can install in the ram slot on the Advent 4211 is 1gb, and according to the Crucial web site it has either 512mb or 1gb (1,024mb) built into the mboard, so the max for this computer appears to be either 1 1/2 gb (1,536mb) or 2gb (2,048mb).

Most people have few if any programs that benefit from - actually use - more than 1gb of ram in XP.

Ultimate Memory Guide
How Much Memory Do You Need? etc.

Windows98 and up, to Vista, Linux, Mac
No mention Windows 7 yet.
Update Jan 30 2010 - the same.

Memory Assessor
How much memory do you really need?
NT Workstation and up
No mention Windows 7 yet.
Update Jan 30 2010 - Windows 7 is there.

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