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I used to have two seperate machines, the one described in the specs and a P4 machine. I had an 80 GB IDE samsung drive in that machine as the system drive, along with a few others at the time. I have been migrating all of the hardware possible to the new machine, mainly drives, and the last one to go in was this 80 GB still with system files on it from the last machine. I set the 80gb to slave on the primary ide channel, since a 60 gb was the master and the main system drive. Upon booting, the system recognized the drive right away, but it only recognized 33 GB of it. It said it was in the same mode as the other ide drive, but did not list any parallel port connections next to it like the other one. Acronis, partition magic, windows diskmgmt and windows install disks only recognize that 33 GB portion of the drive. The recovery software R-Studio NTFS was able to see that there was really a 74 GB drive but could only recover data that was on the windows and bios viewable 33 GB portion of the disk. I have checked all the connections and set the bios options to default for this item and still nothing. Any insights are welcome.
what operating system and file system was used on the old (80GB) drive? and what file system are you using with XP on your new machine?
It says not to put a question here... why not?
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windows xp pro 32 bit, installed from the exact same cd. both are ntfs, the version used by the windows install cd.
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Download and run [free] Disk Investigator. It will examine all your disks, including the 80GB slave. It will identify any logical drives or partitions and indicate the file system. It can also show the folders on the drive.
You did not mention if you can see all the folders on the drive. Can you?
Not to worry about the 74GB vs 80GB. That likely comes from differences in how IKB is counted - 1000B vs 1024B.
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A long shot, but make sure there isn't a jumper in place on the HDD that caps it to 32GB.
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"It said it was in the same mode as the other ide drive, but did not list any parallel port connections next to it like the other one."
What do you mean by that?
On the computer you had the 80gb drive on before, could you see the full 80gb, or just 33gb of it?
If the latter, the drive limitation jumper is probably installed on the 80gb - it limits what the bios can see to that size, so that you can use it on a computer that can't handle a drive larger than ~32gb.If that's not the case, did you by chance have a drive of 33gb before, on the computer you transferred the 80gb to, at that drive position? If so the bios may be using User parameters for the drive that was there before - make sure the drive position it is on is set to Auto detect, by the method Auto or LBA in the bios.
"Are you certain it's NTFS & not FAT32?"
Why would that make a difference? XP won't let you fdisk/format a drive it sees as larger than ~32gb using FAT32, it will use NTFS by default; and you can easily use other methods and utilities to format it to FAT32 despite that.
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There was nothing in the slave position on the primary channel before this. The old computer recognized the full 74 GB (1024 MB). When I say the comment about parallel ports I mean after the BIOS drive recognition but before the windows screen when you see all the stats about the hardware. Listed to the right of the ide drive that is fully seen it lists "LBA, ATA 100 Parallel Port(s): 378" and next to the 74 posing as 33 it just says "LBA, ATA 100". I tried the disk investigator and it only saw what windows and the bios saw. Also I am completley positive the drives are NTFS, all of my drives are NTFS. Also the BIOS settings for both ide drives are all set to auto.
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"LBA, ATA 100 Parallel Port(s): 378" and next to the 74 posing as 33 it just says "LBA, ATA 100".
That's of no consequence - just cosmetic. It might shift position a bit dependindg on how many drives are installed, etc.
The only thing else I can suggest is to try it in another drive position as master or slave, by itself, or as master or slave to a different drive.
It doesn't happen often these days, but sometimes a drive won't work properly in combo - on the same data cable - with certain other drives.
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You ARE using an 80 wire data cable for all UDMA66 and up drives I hope. Most recent mboards will not run the drives the full speed the mboard is capable of if the cable is 40 wire because they can detect whether the cable is 80 wire or not, but it could cause other problems as well.
Have you tried other data cables? Inspected them? The 80 wire ones especially are easy to damage near the connectors.
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I am not sure if I am using the 80 wire cables, just the IDE cables that come with the mobo. Although when I boot I do see a message that says something about no 80-conductor found, if that helps. When I get a chance I will try the drive in other configurations like master, cable select, etc.
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Look at the 80 wire cable. Newer cables have a black connector at the end and a grey connector in the middle. Another way is that the texture of the 80 wire cable is smoother than the old 40 wire cable. Same width, though. Pictures here.
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"Although when I boot I do see a message that says something about no 80-conductor found, if that helps.:
Yes it does. That's a problem!
They are both IDE data cables. The connectors have the same number of holes, the drives have the same number of pins - 40 - but the 80 wire cables have 80 wires instead of 40 for greater data transfer reliability (more grounds). You MUST use 80 wire data cables for any drive that has UDMA66 or greater specs, or it CANNOT achieve its rated speed.
On older mboards you could get away with using a 40 wire cable with them, but the mboard often won't let them run as fast as they can. If you connect an 80 wire cable to the same drive, it will immediately transfer data faster, providing the mboard supports it.
On more recent mboards they can detect whether you are using the right cable - they display an error message while booting, and they won't let the drive run as fast as it can.
It's possible that is also related to your 33gb error, but I've never heard of that before - the drive position may be related to that, but in any case your drive will be a lot faster than it is now with the proper cable.Go to a place that has computer pieces and get a data cable rated for UDMA66 or greater. It will always have 80 wires in that case.
CD/DVD drives can't transfer data that fast, so a 40 wire data cable is fine for them if all that is connected to that data cable are CD drives (I've never seen one faster than UDMA33, and most can't even achieve that).
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