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Replacing rtc battery: soldered on?

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Name: h987
Date: February 2, 2005 at 10:05:04 Pacific
OS: ME
CPU/Ram: 160 RAM/P2
Comment:

I need to replace a RayoVac 3V Lithium rtc battery on a P2, Compaq Deskpro 6000 - circa 1996.

Here are some pics:

http://img138.exs.cx/img138/5980/deskpro600rtcbattery3vlithium0.jpg

I don't see any screws; is it likely soldered on?

Short of removing the solder and re-soldering a new coin cell; would I have to get a jumper-style battery?

If so, where do I connect it?

Thanks for any help.




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Response Number 1
Name: StuartS
Date: February 2, 2005 at 10:47:09 Pacific
Reply:

I doubt very much if it is soldered on. It is a long time since motherboards came with soldered batteries and even then, they were of the rechargeable type.

I think that if you lever the battery out sideways it will come out.

Stuart


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Response Number 2
Name: h987
Date: February 2, 2005 at 11:13:55 Pacific
Reply:

You can see in the pics the 4 small dots which are on top of the bracket holding in the battery - they are not screws - but appear to be solder points.

It doesn't seem to be able to budge at all -sideways or whatever.


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Response Number 3
Name: Rimfire
Date: February 2, 2005 at 11:32:43 Pacific
Reply:

Thats not solder, they're spot welds.

The battery lifts out oposite this plate. gently prise it and it should pop out.


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Response Number 4
Name: h987
Date: February 2, 2005 at 11:42:08 Pacific
Reply:

..."gently prise it and it should pop out"

Sorry, I need specifics on which direction.

I tried moving it side to side -I heard a pop noise but it won't come out and the bracket appears to be bending...

Thanks


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Response Number 5
Name: Rimfire
Date: February 2, 2005 at 12:24:08 Pacific
Reply:

It lifts out opposite the plate with the welds. It is held in with a spring clip which needs to be overcome, then it will be free. Insert the new battery in the same direction.


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Response Number 6
Name: h987
Date: February 2, 2005 at 13:18:51 Pacific
Reply:

I removed it -but the tip of the clip was definitely soldered to the board.

(See this first image; I marked where it was soldered to.)

http://img18.exs.cx/img18/2875/deskpro600battery28kg.jpg


You can see in the 2nd image that the bracket is bent a bit.

In the 3rd image, the battery still has the clip on it.

I don't know if this is the way it was to be removed - but now it is off in this fashon...

Now what?


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Response Number 7
Name: angrymen2001
Date: February 2, 2005 at 13:41:13 Pacific
Reply:

It appears to me like it was soldered in, but I never seen that on a mobo since I've been building. If you could, email me a better quality picture to get a better look. Take on of the post still on the mobo, and where you drew the arrow.

When all else fails beat the $%!* out of it!!!


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Response Number 8
Name: Rimfire
Date: February 2, 2005 at 14:24:11 Pacific
Reply:

My apologies, I should have looked closer at the first pictures. What I thought was a retention bracket was actually a shadow. I also should have realised that 'gently prise' could have had another meaning.

This is very a unusual design. The use of button type batteries is because they can be housed in a cheap plastic clip and easily removed. Your motherboard was designed not to have the battery replaced.

The simplest solution would be to solder wire to each side of the battery. Then encapsulate the battery in some heat shrink tubing. Solder the other ends of the wires to the correct points on the board (negative to the point you circled on the photo) and attach the battery with double sided tape.


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Response Number 9
Name: StuartS
Date: February 2, 2005 at 14:40:39 Pacific
Reply:

Seems like a piece of built in obsolescence by Compaq or there doing a bit of penny pinching by not installing a proper battery holder.

Stuart


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Response Number 10
Name: h987
Date: February 2, 2005 at 14:42:48 Pacific
Reply:

No problem, Rimfire..

I will try your suggestion.


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Response Number 11
Name: elric
Date: February 3, 2005 at 04:27:26 Pacific
Reply:

G'day,

Soldering leads to a button cell battery may be problematic if you are not very experienced in soldering. The solder may well not "take" and you will end up just overheating the cell, which will at least may make it leak, but possibly make it explode.
You could try putting it into a plastic holder and then run some leads from the contacts on the holder to the points on the board. You would then need to mount the holder/battery combination somewhere in the case.
Another possibility would be to get a dual AA type battery holder, stick it to the inside of the case and run some leads to the board. You could then insert two AA type batteries any time you needed to. They are cheaper and much easier to deal with.
regards,
Elric


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Response Number 12
Name: h987
Date: February 3, 2005 at 07:31:27 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the info, Elric. Since these risks are involved - I doubt I will attempt this.

By the way -I thought that a 4/4.5 volt jumper style battery could be used to override the coin cell - like this one from Radio Shack:

http://tinyurl.com/488lc

Then again - I could be completly off about this.
(Don't worry, I won't be running out to get one - I'm just wondering out loud in a post PC-destroying kinda way...)


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Response Number 13
Name: elric
Date: February 4, 2005 at 02:58:50 Pacific
Reply:

G'day,

Yes,h987, that's the sort of thing I was thinking about. However, I can't guarentee that your circuitry will work at 4V5 instead of 3V: it probably will, but to be on the safe side look at these items on the Radio Shack site you gave me (I'm assuming that you have easy access to this supplier) :
http://www.radioshack.com/search.asp?find=battery+holder&site=search&SRC=1&image1.x=22&image1.y=30
These part numbers will provide the 3V that your board needs.
270-389
270-408
270-414
You can use common AA or AAA batteries (alkaline or NiMH) that can be bought at any supermarket. This way, you get out of the trap of having to buy special batteries.
Also, I think you can buy rechargable alkaline batteries now (we can over here in Oz) so you can get the full 3V and also charge them if they run down- keeping your costs down and saving the environment.
Good luck,
Elric


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