Replace GPU and Power Supply? Asus Essentio

June 26, 2011 at 20:40:57
Specs: Windows 7, 8GB
How's it going? A friend of mine sent me an Asus cg1330 as a gift. Been doing some reading and see a lot of people having the same blue screen/crashing issues as I am.

Seems like a lot of the problem is the HD 5450 that comes with this machine, and also the 300w power supply being inadequate. Anyone familiar with this machine, and if so would springing for a quality card & power supply solve my ills? Like I said--it was a gift, so I don't have any money rolled up in it. WIth that said--I don't mind springing for a card and supply.

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June 26, 2011 at 20:53:54
the gpu is probably not the problem.

Is it built on the motherboard?

If it is not, then defiantly power supply upgrade should be fine. If it is, then it may still be power.

What error is your blue screen reporting?

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June 26, 2011 at 21:16:18
GPU isn't built on the board, separate card. I only seem to get the crashes when gaming or doing other graphic-intenst activity.

I've got the last for rounds of dump files if you'd like to see them. Blue screens vary:


I've checked drives, supposedly everything is at the best version. Also ran mem. diagnostic, everything checks out fine.

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June 26, 2011 at 21:22:20
I can’t believe Asus configured that system with only a 300W power supply. AMD recommends a PSU with 450W minimum to run the HD5750.

In addition to that, the CPU is a 125W unit, which pulls mostly from the 12V rail. That alone requires 10.5A@12V. The HD5750 pulls another 7A@12V. Add in the fans, drives, etc. and you need a PSU with at least 22A on the 12V rail.

Look at the specs of the power supply in your rig and see what it puts out. See the link below.

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June 26, 2011 at 21:27:19
BTW--here's some additional system info:

AMD Phenom II X6 1045T
Socket AM3 (938)
Chipset: AMD 780G; Southbridge: AMD SB700
Memory: 8,192MB; Dual channel

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June 26, 2011 at 21:33:42
I found different review specs than the specs from Asus. The Asus specs show the PSU at 400W with a HD5450 card.

Post the brand and model of the PSU or at least the Amps on the 12V rail.

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June 27, 2011 at 08:05:15
I highly doubt it's a graphics card issue & although a 300W may be cutting it close, it should be OK as long as other hardware upgrades haven't been made. I just did a quick googling of a few of those error messages & they all seem to indicate a problem with the graphics driver. Make sure the onboard graphics are disabled in the BIOS, then uninstall the current ATI drivers for the HD 5450 & install the latest available from AMD/ATI. Based on the amount of RAM, I assume you have Win7 64-bit. Here's the driver:

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June 27, 2011 at 18:24:20
Thanks for the responses. I need to crack it open to check the psu.

As for the graphics driver--I'd bet money there's an issue there too. Once (literally just once) everything came back from the frozen scramble that precedes the crashes. It said it recovered from a driver failure. That's what prompted me to make the change, I've actually got the driver installed that you referenced (though again, thanks much!).

I'll take a look via the bios to see if I can disable the other card there. I've disabled the onboard video before using device manager but it didn't help anything. Now I just need to be sure I'm not disabling the wrong one.

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June 27, 2011 at 19:28:12
it could be any driver, You need to look at the Bluescreens closer to determine that actual driver as it should be listed.

All those codes show is a kernel problem with any process or one of the man6y drivers is having problems, nothing is conclusively stated in in what is listed, we need the full blue screen

Download blue screen viewer so when it happens, you will get a record of the exact error when you log back in

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July 3, 2011 at 20:06:21
Sorry, been away from home for a little while. Thanks for the replies so far.

Opened it up & verified it's a cheapo 300w supply. May go pick up a new one tomorrow just to be on the safe side. Also checked the card, ram, and internal connections. Card was slightly slanted, propped it up as I reinstalled. As suspected...made zero difference, screen scramble & crash within 20 minutes.

I've got blue screen viewer...if there's specific info that would help see what is happening--just let me know & I'll provide ASAP.

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July 4, 2011 at 04:53:45
"Card was slightly slanted". Which card? If a PCI add in card don't you have the hold down screw installed? If the graphics card, be sure the lock on the back end is fully engaged.

Have you booted into the BIOS screens to see if anything there needs to be adjusted? Date, time, boot order etc?

"DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL". That message may indicate an incorrect driver is installed. If the integrated and the add in do NOT use the same series driver then you must uninstall the integrated driver and then install the new driver.

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July 5, 2011 at 18:44:02
PCI card...the HD 5450, it was slanted. When the metal panel (I'm assuming that's the lock on the back end you're referring to) was tightened down the card itself was at a slight slant. When I removed--it even looks a little warped. When I propped it up straight it had a slight bow to it.

I went through the BIOS six ways from Saturday on Monday morning, everything was as it should be. Integrated onboard graphics were disabled, driver was uninstalled. I had the most up-to-date ATI driver for the HD 5450, and tried a few older versions just in case...all yielded the same results.

On a whim I went to microcenter, had some store credit. Picked up an EVGA GTX 460 that was on sale. Also picked up a new power supply (Corsair 600GS) which was also on sale. Opened it up, swapped the PSU & card, booted up, installed driver--and the system hasn't flinched since (knock on wood). I pressed it pretty hard, temps were down & everything is running as smoothly as I could possibly ask for.

Thanks for all of the input, I greatly appreciate it.

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July 6, 2011 at 04:53:54
The lock I am referring to is on the other end of the card. The inboard end.

Most motherboards have a lock similar to the locks on the memory. Some have a slide type lock. Insert the card. Engage the lock, then install the screw.

If you have to force the card into position in order to install the screw then something is wrong. I have seen cheap cases that wouldn't even stay square without most of the covers installed. Also have seen cards made wrong. the flat part of the mounting bracket should be at 90 degrees to the contact edges. All the contacts on your graphics card may not be making a solid connection.

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July 6, 2011 at 06:03:02
Ah, I'm with you. In that case--yes, the lock was engaged. The cards fit in/out pretty easily, I didn't have to force or wrestle with them much.

I had the same thought about all of the contacts not having a good connection when I saw the original card sitting at an angle. I reseated & installed correctly, but it was still giving the same problems at that point. At that point (and after additional driver experiments after the card was reseated) I figured another card was worth a shot. Seems to have worked out.

At this point--I've spent enough time wrestling with it. New PSU and video card are in, and the system hasn't even thoguht about freezing/crashing since Monday mid day.

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July 6, 2011 at 06:20:15
The issue was probably an undersized power supply.

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