relisys re 9513L monitor win 98 driver

Relisys / Re 9513l
August 5, 2009 at 12:52:46
Specs: Windows Vista
I need a monitor driver win 98 for this unit. It has clear picture until the monitor driver loads up then it it smears and has multiple images. I am going to donate it and an older computer to a charity child care center.

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#1
August 5, 2009 at 13:17:06
You need the video card driver, it should display the make and model on first boot in the top corner of screen.
Failing that you may need to remove the card to get the make and model number, or if you are lucky it may be listed in the hardware device list.

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#2
August 5, 2009 at 13:31:29
I do have the video card driver and it works fine with other monitors. This is an older Relisys monitor. When the computer boots the color is just fine but when the drivers start loading the problem kicks in. I will try to go in safe mode and see if I can reset the refresh rate on the card I believe this monitor will require it's own driver if one is available for win 98.

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#3
August 5, 2009 at 17:05:05
"I do have the video card driver and it works fine with other monitors."
does the monitor work with other computers?

larry


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#4
August 5, 2009 at 18:41:25
'Monitors' do not normally need a driver installed. The only driver the video system needs is the one for the video card/adapter.

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#5
August 5, 2009 at 23:14:34
The maximum resoution on that is 640 x 480:

http://www.monitorworld.com/Monitor...

As long as it's set that way in display properties and the refresh rate is between 50 and 70 Hz it should work OK, although that doesn't prevent someone from changing those figures.

What you can do is set the monitor to a standard VGA of 640 x 480. Open 'display properties'.

Then 'advanced'
'monitor'
'change'
'next'
click 'display a list of all the drivers. . .'
'next'
click 'show all hardware'

Scroll up to 'standard monitor types' in the left panel and highlight it. In the right panel choose 'Standard VGA 640x480'. Then 'next'. Follow any remaining prompts to establish that as your monitor type. Once that's changed then only the 640 x 480 resolution should show in display properties.

Or any of the monitor types listed there with the same specs should work too. But of course that information isn't shown there.. The only one I know for sure is the same is the IBM 8513.


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#6
August 6, 2009 at 07:38:11
The monitor works the same for three different computers using windows 98. I have not tried it on windows xp. The picture on the monitor is find when the computer boots but when windows loads it smears and triplicates the image. In safe mode (F8) the picture is fine as well. I believe all monitors require a driver that must load, however, due to standardization most monitors can use a standard svga driver and work just fine. I know that when I use an older acer monitor on one of my older pentium 2 units it will always show the device driver for the ACER Model # has loaded as part of the boot up sequence under windows 98.

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#7
August 6, 2009 at 07:54:04
Yes they do need drivers but most of the time the OS can ID the monitor and load what it needs or it's PnP and just loads those drivers. Your monitor is too old to be PnP and 98 doesn't have native support for it and I couldn't find any drivers for it.

Boot to safe mode. At the desktop open display properties and just choose to keep those settings. Then reboot normally. You'll be able to see the desktop then without the echo images. Then set the monitor as 'standard VGA 640 x 480' or as something like the IBM 8513 as I mentioned in #5 above.


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#8
August 6, 2009 at 13:05:16
OK, maybe I can learn something here. That's always a good thing.
How will installing a monitor driver improve operation? Or in other words, what is missing if you do not install the monitor driver.

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#9
August 6, 2009 at 13:49:12
If the video card doesn't know what monitor is connected then the screen resolution, refresh frequency, etc. the card is capable may not be compatible with the monitor. Ideally if it can identify the monitor then all the available options should be compatible. But even the generic 'PnP monitor' or 'Default monitor' can allow incompatible video card settings to show.

You can of course manually set the resolution and refresh frequency in the card options if the monitor isn't exactly identified but that still leaves the incompatible options for someone to screw around with. If, however, you specify the monitor as an IBM 8513 which is only capable of 640 x 480 then that's all that should show if one goes to 'screen area' in display properties. The refresh frequencies should also be limited to what the monitor is capable of. As far as I know that's the sole purpose of monitor drivers--to only allow video card options that are compatible with the monitor.

No one uses 640 x 480 any more unless they have to so when you connect one of those antiques to a working system running at least 800 x 600 you get the image echoes.


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#10
August 6, 2009 at 14:37:48
Daveincaps

I understand the issues regardn the resolution (640 x 480) and I understand the refresh rate (50-70 mhz or whatever) but I do not understand the number of colors issue. Without a proper driver it is possible to get the 640x480 resolution and a working refresh rate but not be able to get more than 16 colors. Even most of the old windows 98 programs required 256 colors to function properly or the video image suffered considerably. While it was not the duplicate or triplicate smeared images, the pixel color was poor and the rate of change for the images as you went from one program to another or to different menus etc in the same application were slow to reform. Why is that? I just wanted to know.


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#11
August 6, 2009 at 15:34:53
Thanks DAVEINCAPS. It didn't occur to me that the video card driver would communicate with a monitor driver. I just assumed that the video card driver got the identity of the monitor from the monitor itself. There are some 'monitor ID' bits in the 'card to monitor' interface, and I assumed that they were used for that function.

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#12
August 6, 2009 at 16:27:43
I remember with a lot of the older monitors and older video cards you often had to install monitor drivers to have them run right. It doesn't matter as much now because monitors do supply that info with PnP and I think default drivers for unknown monitors provide more options. The information that monitor drivers supply isn't absolutely necessary to configure a monitor, they just reduce the likelihood that manual settings will result in an unreadable screen.

Lovegrass, safe mode only has 640 x 480 and 16 colors. You're temporarily keeping that setting so when you boot to normal mode you'll have a readable screeen. In normal mode when the video drivers load you'll have as many colors as the video ram will allow. Even with old cards I never had a problem getting at least 256 colors on a 640 x 480.

If in normal mode you only have 16 colors and can't change it, it's almost certainly a video card driver problem. How is the 'display adapter' identifed in device manager?


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