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Recovering after BIOS Change

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Name: The Eagle
Date: March 3, 2007 at 02:34:52 Pacific
OS: XP Pro
CPU/Ram: 3200XP 1024 DDR
Product: Gigabyte 7NF RZ
Comment:

Recovering Gigabyte 7NF RZ after BIOS change!
I wonder if someone can give me any advice.
My friend has a Gigabyte 7NF RZ with a Sempron 2200 (I think it is that) CPU and
because his readings showed it only had a 994 mhz speed he tried to alter
the settings (not flash it) in the BIOS.
He said he changed some settings but he can't remember which ones,now on boot up NOTHING happens; and obviously he cannot get into
the BIOS.

He has now brought the PC to me. I have reset by shorting the CMOS pins and removed the battery.
But alas this never sorted it!
................he claims ONCE he got a quick display (2 seconds) on the
monitor of the BIOS but then nothing. Now he gets absolutely nothing at all.

I have also changed the power supply, graphics card and monitor. I have now totally rebuilt it up again all to no avail. On start up I get NO Bleeps and just the CPU fan spinning. I have also removed the RAM/CPU/Graphics card but still no bleeps


Is it possible to cock up the motherboard without flashing the BIOS but just
by changing settings?

Any tips/advice would be welcome
Many thanks in advance




Response Number 1
Name: Doctor1954
Date: March 3, 2007 at 03:47:46 Pacific
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He may have cooked the CPU with the settings changes. If so, the computer might behave that way.



Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: March 3, 2007 at 07:32:23 Pacific
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I kinda doubt the CPU fried. If all he did was change a few BIOS settings, I don't see why you'd go thru the hassle of changing the PSU, video card, RAM, etc.

It would help if you knew which Sempron he has. I'm guessing that the FSB is/was set to 100MHz instead of 166MHz. The Sempron 2200+ has a multi of 9x, so that would have put the speed at 900MHz, or thereabouts. He probably has a Sempron 2400+ which has a multi of 10x & his board probably underclocks the FSB slightly, so instead of 100MHz, it runs at 99.4MHz. There's a switch (CLK_SW) on the board that has to be set for the FSB...it's to the left of the NB chip, just above the AGP slot. It's probably set to OFF when it should be set to ON. That will allow FSB settings above 100MHz. He should also have the latest BIOS (version F4), but you won't be able to address that until you get it to boot again.

To clear CMOS, you don't have to remove the battery, but you do have to unplug the power cord. Just move the jumper to the clear position, wait a few seconds, then move it back to the normal position again. Plug in the power cord & try to boot up...if you're successful, run thru ALL the BIOS settings & correct them as necessary. Do NOT use default settings because they are NOT good performance settings.



Response Number 3
Name: The Eagle
Date: March 3, 2007 at 08:21:26 Pacific
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Thanks for your reply.
From what I can see it appears that the Motherboard is faulty now. I tried all the different options and I still get absolutely nothing. No Bleep(s) and nothing on the monitor.

Thanks for your time and comments



Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: March 3, 2007 at 10:37:48 Pacific
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If all he did was change some BIOS settings, it's very possible that the board is good. Try the minimal hardware approach. Remove all cards but video, use just one stick of RAM, disconnect all the drives (floppy, optical, HDD), unplug all external devices except the keyboard & monitor. Double check all other connections, then try clearing CMOS again & see if it'll boot. If not, you still have to rule out the parts that are left...it *might* be the board, but it could also be the CPU, RAM or PSU. If you have an old PCI video card laying around, give it a try.



Response Number 5
Name: The Eagle
Date: March 3, 2007 at 10:45:37 Pacific
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Have changed the AGP to PCI graphics, changed power supply, and used different RAM.

Surely if the CPU or anything else was faulty I would still get at least one bleep.



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Response Number 6
Name: max00
Date: March 3, 2007 at 13:25:13 Pacific
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You will not get any beep(s) with a defective CPU. The CPU needs to be running to put out the beep(s).



Response Number 7
Name: The Eagle
Date: March 3, 2007 at 20:07:34 Pacific
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OK that will be my next move, to try another CPU.
When I get my hands on one I will update you all.

Thanks for all your advice and time.



Response Number 8
Name: The Eagle
Date: March 5, 2007 at 21:13:29 Pacific
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Tried another CPU but no joy.
HOWEVER the plot thickens. I sold him my other PC that has been working perfect for a few years (Gigabyte GA-7N400 Pro2, XP3200, 1 GB DDR Ram Windows Home XP). Well he took it home set it up and worked OK, until he then decided to fit another hard drive (The one that was on the other faulty motherboard) as he wanted to retrieve some files. Any case he claims he plugged it in and it worked OK for an hour or so, whilst setting it up then he went into BIOS apparently to change primary/slave ?????

Well after one hour the PC just died on him.
Further investigations it appears it is now doing EXACTLY the same as the previous motherboard. CPU fan spins, but absolutely nothing showing on the BIOS on the monitor.
I have removed everything etc.........just like the other NO bleeps, nothing.

I am not an expert but could it be that on the hard drive he fitted (also on previous motherboard) he might have had a virus of some sort. Then whilst entering the BIOS this has activated it?

Any help/advice would be appreciated



Response Number 9
Name: The Eagle
Date: March 7, 2007 at 03:25:06 Pacific
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I have noticed the jumpers on the slave HDD are set totally wrong (not even set to master or CS). If they were set wrong could they destroy a motherboard?



Response Number 10
Name: chudsy
Date: April 11, 2007 at 14:39:50 Pacific
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I had exactly the same this evening so I had to go back to my existing board. I changed over to the gigabyte board, changed ram to crucial ddr3200, my existing card is a saphire radeon 9800 pro 256. Powered up and all the fans were running (including the one on the graphics card) but absolutely nothing on the monitor - well peeved to say the least ! Re-installed the card to make sure it was seated, different CPU speed switch & slot for the ram but still nothing. Will incorrectly set up front case usb jumpers or switch/status leds jumpers settings cause the problem? I don't want to rebuild the old pc each time I need to go on a forum to ask questions!!!!!!!

Cheers All.



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