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Name: darkane
Date: March 22, 2007 at 14:18:29 Pacific
OS: win 2000 SP4
CPU/Ram: celeron 2.1/512 DDR1
Product: ASUS P4S8X-MX
Comment:

I am in disaster and in bad need for expert help I am usually never as clueless as I am now
I get random lockups total freeze on windows 2000 SP4 followed by data corruption on restart

its a total freeze just like god damn win98 I ve never seen this before
no error messages to study and investigate

important notices : when this happanes its like an immidiate response to a click or a key stroke
and during extensive hard disk activity

one time i was using microsoft Word , with many programs in background , I lost my registry and restored a backup
second time I opened a streaming movie on WMP through firefox I lost firefox document and restored a near backup
now I am at risk of data corruption any time

I am positive my RAM is flawless I tested it before thoroughly
I don't know if a sotfware windows error can cause this
CPU temperature never goes above 45 celesius
HDD SMART check doesn't complain from errors
chkdsk reports no errors
surface test not done yet
no sounds or clicks from the HDD

I suspect power supply its a cheap crap but my system demands for wattage won't even reach 250 thus it has always been happy
with it , I used an online calculator to get a rough estimate
I suspect that adding a secondary 6 gig HDD used as Page file partition and file sharing partition , has caused the PSU
to not keep up with the system demands at certain moments

Celeron D 2.1 G , ASUS P4S8X-MX
512 RAM hynix 1 stick
80 GB HDD hitachi SATA
6 GB HDD seagate
DVD writer LITEON

that's all I can think of , and thank you in advance
and to hell with NTFS with its fancy "journaling system" claimed to keep your data safe
I ve never benefited from this NTFS crap only harder to restore than FAT32

darkness owns ya all



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Response Number 1
Name: winhelp
Date: March 23, 2007 at 09:37:25 Pacific
Reply:

Sounds as though you may need to format your computer, if worse comes to worse. If you restored the registry recently, then that may have caused corruption in the root files. Your best bet would be to back up what you can, dig out your Windows cds and then begin the process of reformatting and reinstalling windows, unless someone else can come up with something. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.


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Response Number 2
Name: darkane
Date: March 23, 2007 at 10:19:27 Pacific
Reply:

thank you winhelp
but why can restoring registry damage root files? i see no boot/driver/program errors
I'd like to know what you mean though
currently it tends to be more of a hardware issue , PSU or HDD , something caused power to be cut suddenly between them , this time I heard a sound of "spinning up" before the disaster "maybe the power was cut ,restored quickly then cut forever"
one more new thing i disattached the 6 GB HDD
this time and windows was starting when it happened at the last startup window before login box ,and no data corruption discovered yet , thank you again and ofcourse I ll try to save what I can

darkness owns ya all


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Response Number 3
Name: winhelp
Date: March 23, 2007 at 13:27:41 Pacific
Reply:

Perhaps it could be that your Windows files are just corrupted?

"I get random lockups total freeze on windows 2000 SP4 followed by data corruption on restart"

When I read this, I could deduct that perhaps there may be some sort of corruption within the windows files?

Heres an idea, go to the Event Viewer. To access this, follow these instructions (pulled from another Computing.net post):

"right click on my computer (symbol on desktop) and click manage.

there you see the event viewer, thats it."

From the event viewer, try to find the System/Error logs, try to browse through and see if there is a specific log regarding a lockup. Generally when Windows has such difficulties, it would attempt to make or record a log.

If this is more of a hardware problem, could it be that perhaps your PSU is malfunctioning? Did the hard drive speed up really fast, then stop working altogether?

Perhaps you could search for a record of such happenings on the manufacturers website?

Post back with more info.

Thanks


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Response Number 4
Name: darkane
Date: March 26, 2007 at 06:43:27 Pacific
Reply:

I found these events but recent occurrences time and date were times where no lockup happened however they may mean something to you::
the page file at the time of following event is the system hard disk but different partition i do this to reduce fragmentation

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 51
An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk0\DR0 during a paging operation.

one more event::
Event Type: Error
Event Source: atapi
Event Category: None
Event ID: 9
The device, \Device\Ide\IdePort3, did not respond within the timeout period.

IDE port 3 above must mean SATA1 because SIS sata controller is normally recognised as standard IDE

here is another babe obviously pointing to the really IDE old 6GB HDD used as paging partition at the time of error
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: atapi
Event Category: None
Event ID: 26
Description:
The driver has detected that device \Device\Ide\IdePort0 has old or out-of-date firmware. Reduced performance may result.

so winhelp do you think that corruption is the reason of lockup and not the opposite??
because last time I heard spinning up as if it turned off power then power on then freeze
many thanks

darkness owns ya all


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