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Name: Anakite
Date: October 3, 2007 at 13:36:23 Pacific
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate
CPU/Ram: AMD 64 x2 4200+/2GB RAM
Product: Myself
Comment:

Okay, here's the deal. I've had Vista for about a month or two, and I only started having this problem a few days after I got it...

Anyway, at random times, my computer will just... stop. LEDs will freeze, sound halts... at one point, I thought this was because of overheating of my CPU or GPU in games, but then it started happening while doing anything, excluding doing nothing. This includes browsing the internet (or my hard-drives), gaming, etc.
I guess this sounds like a RAM problem. Maybe it is...

I remember having a similar problem, back when I had XP and a 450W power supply, and it WAS caused by the RAM. Whenever I put in a second gig of RAM, my computer would frequently lock up; but only when playing demanding games. There was also a loud... beeping tone, coming from my tower, I think. A constant sound, too.

After I got a new 650W power supply (before upgrading to vista), everything seemed peachy with my secong gig of RAM. And I lived happily ever after.

That is, until it started happening again, but this time with no sound (although now, it sometimes DOES have that sound). But here's the thing: it happens at completely random times. I can be playing a demanding game like the ETQW demo, or even the Crysis beta... and it might decide to just not lock up, even after hours of play. And sometimes it'll let me play for a staggering 5 minutes.

I don't think it's overheating, because my CPU and GPU are only OCCASIONALLY hot when this happens. Same with my hard-drive.

Any thoughts?

Oh, and if it'd help at all, I'm using an 8800GTS 640MB. Two of my RAM sticks are Kingstons (I believe), not sure about the other two (512 sticks). I think they're a cheap brand, but I'm not sure.



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Response Number 1
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 3, 2007 at 14:14:56 Pacific
Reply:

The beeping MAY be an alarm telling you the computer is hot.


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Response Number 2
Name: Anakite
Date: October 3, 2007 at 14:43:31 Pacific
Reply:

That occurred to me. But it last happened while I was browsing the internet, and when I restarted, my CPU temp was in the low 40's (Centigrade, of course).


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Response Number 3
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 3, 2007 at 14:53:26 Pacific
Reply:

It doesn't take long for an improperly cooled CPU to heatup or to cool down either. You may want to place a monitor on your desktop to see what is going on.

Check in the BIOS under PC Health to see if an audable alarm is an option and if so, what is the current setting.

Depending on which chipset is used on your MBoard you MAY even have a monitoering program on the MBoard CD.


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Response Number 4
Name: Anakite
Date: October 3, 2007 at 15:14:27 Pacific
Reply:

It's an nForce chipset motherboard, one of the cheap kinds.

I remember looking for one... Speedfan was one I tried, but that only supports Intel CPUs. It read my CPUs as being at a constant 127C.

I'll check on the alarm thing, though.


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Response Number 5
Name: atarileaf
Date: October 3, 2007 at 15:37:50 Pacific
Reply:

Ram incompatibility could also cause these kind of problems.

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Response Number 6
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 3, 2007 at 15:47:23 Pacific
Reply:

Look on the MBoard CD for NV Monitor. I have it running in my tray. Came on the CD for my Foxxconn Winfast MB. Open all the folders on the CD by using Explore from My Computer.


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Response Number 7
Name: Anakite
Date: October 3, 2007 at 16:57:25 Pacific
Reply:

No-go on NV monitor. There were no utities of any kind on the driver disc.

And atarileaf... could you please elaborate?


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Response Number 8
Name: atarileaf
Date: October 4, 2007 at 05:31:32 Pacific
Reply:

"Two of my RAM sticks are Kingstons (I believe), not sure about the other two (512 sticks). I think they're a cheap brand, but I'm not sure."

Anakite:

Mixing and matching ram can sometimes cause problems. I'm not a ram expert but others here could tell you the technical reason why using different brands of ram together MAY (not always) cause system instability problems, such as the ones you describe in your first post.

Asus K8V-X
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WD 80 GIG
LG DVD-RW
XP Home

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Response Number 9
Name: Anakite
Date: October 4, 2007 at 14:15:26 Pacific
Reply:

Oh. Well, then one of these days, I'm going to have to try buying new sticks of RAM. Probably soon.

Thanks for the help.


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Response Number 10
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 4, 2007 at 14:21:00 Pacific
Reply:

You don't need to buy new RAM. If the RAM is bad Kingston RAM has a lifetime warranty. Kingston is quality RAM. Download and run memtest86. You install the program to a floppy or bootable CD and run from the boot. Any errors are unacceptable. Find memtest86 here:

http://www.memtest86.com/


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Response Number 11
Name: OtheHill
Date: October 4, 2007 at 16:41:29 Pacific
Reply:

Anakite

If you haven't found a temperature monitor yet I noticed that a hardware utility I use, called SIW reads the sensors. Google for SIW and install. Then drag a shortcut to the tray. You can then open it any time you want. I will keep an eye out for something better.


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Response Number 12
Name: Anakite
Date: October 4, 2007 at 18:07:59 Pacific
Reply:

When I open it, Vista complains about it not being able to access drivers, or something like that... it then reads my cores as being at 206C each.
Thanks anyway, though.


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