Solved Radeon x1650 AGP VS. GeForce 8400 GS PCI-E

The X1650 is the better performing card but it's time to move away from AGP. You can always dump the lowly 8400GS & replace it with something better. Not sure what you'll use your new system for but the 8400GS is NOT a gaming card. X1650 benchmark 8400GS benchmark

@riider You were looking at the x1650 Pro, an upgraded version of the card I have. I did find some advanced specifications on both cards, though. Radeon x1650 ATi Series: Radeon X1K GPU: RV530 + Rialto Release Date: 2007-02-01 Interface: AGP 8X Core Clock: 500 MHz Memory Clock: 400 MHz (800 DDR) Memory Bandwidth: 12.8 GB/sec Shader Operations: 6000 MOperations/sec Pixel Fill Rate: 2000 MPixels/sec Texture Fill Rate: 2000 MTexels/sec Vertex Operations: 625 MVertices/sec Noise Level: Quiet Framebuffer: 256,512 MB Memory Type: DDR2 Memory Bus Type: 32x4 (128 bit) DirectX Compliance: 9.0c OpenGL Compliance: 2.0 PS/VS Version: 3.0/3.0 Process: 90 nm Fragment Pipelines: 12 Vertex Pipelines: 5 Texture Units: 4 Raster Operators 4 GeForce 8400GS: nVidia Series: GeForce 8 GPU: G86 Release Date: 2007-06-19 Interface: PCI-E x16 Core Clock: 450 MHz Shader Clock: 900 MHz Memory Clock: 400 MHz (800 DDR) Memory Bandwidth: 6.4 GB/sec FLOPS: 0 GFLOPS Pixel Fill Rate: 3600 MPixels/sec Texture Fill Rate: 3600 MTexels/sec Quiet Framebuffer: 128,256,512,1024 MB Memory Type: DDR2 Memory Bus Type: 32x2 (64 bit) DirectX Compliance: 10.0 OpenGL Compliance: 2.1 PS/VS Version: 4.0/4.0 Process: 80 nm Shader Processors: 16 Pipeline Layout: Scalar MADD+MUL Texture Units: 8 Raster Operators 8 Also, this isn't a completely new build. I'm mainly looking to buy this board for the CPU, which is considerably more powerful than my own. This kit would mainly just be a patch-up to hold my current rig over until I get the funds for a brand-new build. Thanks, Comguy AMD Sempron 2600+ 1.6GHz OC@ 1.8GHz, 2048MB of DDR-400 RAM Windows XP Professional 32-bit ATI Radeon X1650 AGP GPU 120GB IDE HDD 160GB IDE HDD 1TB SATA WD Caviar Green

"You were looking at the x1650 Pro" It doesn't matter, the X1650 (regardless of the version) is the better card. The 8400GS is a low end card that uses 64-bit memory. Look at the difference in memory bandwidths - 12.8 GB/sec vs 6.4 GB/sec. The X1650 wins!

@riider I have to agree with you on that. In that case, I think I'll stick with my current board and card, as I don't have the money to buy just the board, RAM and CPU, then go and purchase a new GPU for it. (Especially after the holidays!) I wish I had a PCI-E GPU sitting around to use on the board, but I don't. Thanks a lot, Comguy AMD Sempron 2600+ 1.6GHz OC@ 1.8GHz, 2048MB of DDR-400 RAM Windows XP Professional 32-bit ATI Radeon X1650 AGP GPU 120GB IDE HDD 160GB IDE HDD 1TB SATA WD Caviar Green

You didn't list any info about the CPU, board, or RAM so it's difficult to comment about it. Does your current power supply have a 24-pin ATX power plug? I'm guessing your Sempron system uses a 20-pin plug, so a new PSU may be required. And so what if the 8400GS sucks? It can be replaced. You can probably sell it for about $20, then put that money toward a better card.

@riider My current system uses a 20+4 pin plug, but nonetheless I'll need a new PSU once I get a need board. (300W currently.) The other components in question are as listed. Gigabyte K8N-ULTRA9 socket 939 1GB OCZ PC3200 RAM (512MB x2) AMD Athlon 64 3700+ CPU S939 Thanks, Comguy AMD Sempron 2600+ 1.6GHz OC@ 1.8GHz, 2048MB of DDR-400 RAM Windows XP Professional 32-bit ATI Radeon X1650 AGP GPU 120GB IDE HDD 160GB IDE HDD 1TB SATA WD Caviar Green