Solved Radeon x1650 AGP VS. GeForce 8400 GS PCI-E

December 16, 2012 at 18:15:36
Specs: Windows XP Professional 32-bit, AMD Sempron 2600+ 1.6GHz OC@ 1.8GHz | 2048MB DDR-400

Hello everyone,

I have recently gotten a chance to purchase a motherboard/CPU/GPU/RAM combo from a friend of mine. I'm not too worried about the GPU, board, and RAM, but the GPU does concern me a bit. I've done a bit of searching, and as I expected, the GeForce 8400 GS appears to be better than my current card; an ATI Radeon x1650, but I just wanted to be sure.

So, which is the better of these two? A SAPPHIRE ATI Radeon x1650 AGP, or a NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS PCI-E?

Thanks in advance,

Comguy

AMD Sempron 2600+
1.6GHz OC@ 1.8GHz, 2048MB of DDR-400 RAM
Windows XP Professional 32-bit
ATI Radeon X1650 AGP GPU
120GB IDE HDD
160GB IDE HDD
1TB SATA WD Caviar Green


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#1
December 16, 2012 at 19:11:19

The X1650 is the better performing card but it's time to move away from AGP. You can always dump the lowly 8400GS & replace it with something better. Not sure what you'll use your new system for but the 8400GS is NOT a gaming card.

X1650 benchmark

8400GS benchmark


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#2
December 16, 2012 at 19:30:06

@riider

You were looking at the x1650 Pro, an upgraded version of the card I have. I did find some advanced specifications on both cards, though.

Radeon x1650

ATi
Series: Radeon X1K
GPU: RV530 + Rialto
Release Date: 2007-02-01
Interface: AGP 8X
Core Clock: 500 MHz
Memory Clock: 400 MHz (800 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 12.8 GB/sec
Shader Operations: 6000 MOperations/sec
Pixel Fill Rate: 2000 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 2000 MTexels/sec
Vertex Operations: 625 MVertices/sec

Noise Level: Quiet
Framebuffer: 256,512 MB
Memory Type: DDR2
Memory Bus Type: 32x4 (128 bit)
DirectX Compliance: 9.0c
OpenGL Compliance: 2.0
PS/VS Version: 3.0/3.0
Process: 90 nm
Fragment Pipelines: 12
Vertex Pipelines: 5
Texture Units: 4
Raster Operators 4

GeForce 8400GS:

nVidia
Series: GeForce 8
GPU: G86
Release Date: 2007-06-19
Interface: PCI-E x16
Core Clock: 450 MHz
Shader Clock: 900 MHz
Memory Clock: 400 MHz (800 DDR)
Memory Bandwidth: 6.4 GB/sec
FLOPS: 0 GFLOPS
Pixel Fill Rate: 3600 MPixels/sec
Texture Fill Rate: 3600 MTexels/sec

Quiet
Framebuffer: 128,256,512,1024 MB
Memory Type: DDR2
Memory Bus Type: 32x2 (64 bit)
DirectX Compliance: 10.0
OpenGL Compliance: 2.1
PS/VS Version: 4.0/4.0
Process: 80 nm
Shader Processors: 16
Pipeline Layout: Scalar MADD+MUL
Texture Units: 8
Raster Operators 8

Also, this isn't a completely new build. I'm mainly looking to buy this board for the CPU, which is considerably more powerful than my own. This kit would mainly just be a patch-up to hold my current rig over until I get the funds for a brand-new build.

Thanks,

Comguy

AMD Sempron 2600+
1.6GHz OC@ 1.8GHz, 2048MB of DDR-400 RAM
Windows XP Professional 32-bit
ATI Radeon X1650 AGP GPU
120GB IDE HDD
160GB IDE HDD
1TB SATA WD Caviar Green


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#3
December 16, 2012 at 19:46:11
✔ Best Answer

"You were looking at the x1650 Pro"

It doesn't matter, the X1650 (regardless of the version) is the better card. The 8400GS is a low end card that uses 64-bit memory. Look at the difference in memory bandwidths - 12.8 GB/sec vs 6.4 GB/sec. The X1650 wins!


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#4
December 16, 2012 at 19:52:29

@riider

I have to agree with you on that. In that case, I think I'll stick with my current board and card, as I don't have the money to buy just the board, RAM and CPU, then go and purchase a new GPU for it. (Especially after the holidays!) I wish I had a PCI-E GPU sitting around to use on the board, but I don't.

Thanks a lot,

Comguy

AMD Sempron 2600+
1.6GHz OC@ 1.8GHz, 2048MB of DDR-400 RAM
Windows XP Professional 32-bit
ATI Radeon X1650 AGP GPU
120GB IDE HDD
160GB IDE HDD
1TB SATA WD Caviar Green


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#5
December 16, 2012 at 20:06:35

You didn't list any info about the CPU, board, or RAM so it's difficult to comment about it. Does your current power supply have a 24-pin ATX power plug? I'm guessing your Sempron system uses a 20-pin plug, so a new PSU may be required. And so what if the 8400GS sucks? It can be replaced. You can probably sell it for about $20, then put that money toward a better card.

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#6
December 16, 2012 at 20:17:30

@riider

My current system uses a 20+4 pin plug, but nonetheless I'll need a new PSU once I get a need board. (300W currently.) The other components in question are as listed.

Gigabyte K8N-ULTRA9 socket 939

1GB OCZ PC3200 RAM (512MB x2)

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ CPU S939

Thanks,

Comguy

AMD Sempron 2600+
1.6GHz OC@ 1.8GHz, 2048MB of DDR-400 RAM
Windows XP Professional 32-bit
ATI Radeon X1650 AGP GPU
120GB IDE HDD
160GB IDE HDD
1TB SATA WD Caviar Green


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