Radeon 9200 causing bluescreen.

March 15, 2009 at 06:32:00
Specs: Windows Xp, SP2, AMD 2800+, 1gb
http://tb.gwakgroup.dk/Billeder/DSC...

This is the bluescreen, looks pretty bad because of the black line and the shattered pixels.
The error says: "
STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC00001D, 0xBFA1C1C3, 0xF79BE7FC, 0x00000000)

ati2cqag.dll Address BFA1C1C3 base at BFA18000"........... Tried to google it, no match found.

This computer is some years old now, lot of funny errors have occurred during its lifetime. I’m not using it for anything else then data storage, gaming cs:s, editing photos and such, its not my main comp, but I’ll try to save it anyway. Do you guys have any idea of what I could do to succeed?

PS: Errorsafe condition works.

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#1
March 15, 2009 at 07:30:18
UPDATE: Tried to install the Radeon 9200 driver from ati's page, but it couldn't detect VGA driver. Then I updated the driver manually to an 9200 driver included in the extracted files from the driver (D:/ATI/Support...), and got a new result.
At first it booted up, and turned blackscreen. Then on a reboot it showed the mouse cursor with a timing glass for some minuttes and turned bluescreen with this error:
ati2dvag. Bluescreen looks normal this time.

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March 15, 2009 at 07:41:09
FIXED: Third reboot, no problems at all.. CS:S worked with 30-60 fps, actually a little bit higher then normal..

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#3
March 15, 2009 at 08:08:59
Glad you got it sorted out (errors indicated a driver problem), but you may wanna consider getting a better video card. The R9200 pretty much sucks for gaming & doesn't even support DX9.

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#4
March 15, 2009 at 10:15:21
We're glad to hear you solved your problem.

Since I had already composed most of this, I might as well post it.....

You can load DirectX 9.c fine (it's included in XP with SP2 updates or later), it's backward compatible with DirectX 8.x and previous and loads support for that, but whatever DirectX 9.x only features the chipset doesn't support won't work of course. Usually that just results in whatever is supposed to be fancier isn't.
However, I haven't been able to install the DirectX 9c updates available from the DirectX support pages successfully on any computer so far, even ones with recent PCI-E X16 ATI video chipsets, even when doing a fresh install of Windows. Your 9200 probably can't benefit from them so don't even try loading those updates.
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FYI

"Tried to install the Radeon 9200 driver from ati's page, but it couldn't detect VGA driver. "

It often doesn't detect older video chipsets. The 9200 chipset first came out before XP was first realeased.

"(errors indicated a driver problem),"

and from info I found....
- it can be caused by installing buggy drivers, such as ones from a CD you got with the video card (ATI usually removes or fixes any driver versions reported to be buggy on/from their drivers pages within a short time - the same can't be said for NVidea drivers),
- or a tiny problem reading the mboard ram because of a poor connection in your ram slots, especially likely if you also get other STOP errors - try removing the ram, cleaning it's contacts, re-seating the ram,
- or a tiny problem because of a poor connection in your video slot - try removing the card, cleaning it'scontacts, re-seating the card.

"Tried to google it, no match found."

When you search, usually it's a good idea for you to NOT include the stuff in brackets after the first part of the stop error, e.g. STOP: 0x0000008E, or the specific address after the name of the file - they are often at least somewhat random or specific to only your system.

Depending on which search engine you use, the priority of what gets listed first is different. I find Yahoo often yields me what I'm looking for regarding computer info and computer problems more favourably than Google does.

On my XP computer with an AIW 9800 Pro, there are three copies of ati2cqag.dll in
C:\Windows\System32
C:\Windows\Sysyem32\ReinstallBackups\000\DriverFiles
C:\Windows\Sysyem32\ReinstallBackups\001\DriverFiles

If your had/have one or more in ....ReinstallBackups....., if the problem was caused by a corrupted one in C:\Windows\System32, you could have tried booting into Safe mode and replacing the one in C:\Windows\System32 with a backup copy.
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"At first it booted up, and turned blackscreen. Then on a reboot it showed the mouse cursor with a timing glass for some minuttes and turned bluescreen with this error:
ati2dvag.."

You can have all sorts of problems if you didn't un-install the previously installed display drivers before you try installing different ones.There is a link to Installation directions that include what you need to do before you install the drivers on the same page where you get the ATI video drivers.

The video must be in a standard default VGA mode of one kind or another or in safevga mode before you install the drivers. You have the added complication with the 9200, or any other older ATI video or other brand chipset XP already has the support for (e.g. my AIW 9800), that XP already has basic built in support for it, and XP will try to automatically load the drivers for that when specific drivers have been un-installed. If Windows has automatically loaded video drivers for video it has built in support for, usually there's nothing regarding that in Add/Remove Programs.
OR, sometimes the previous specific ATI or other brand video software un-install leaves behind enough that the adapter is detected while booting after having un-installed the drivers despite the fact it shouldn't be.
After you have un-installed the specific video drivers and have rebooted, take a look in Device Manager - Display adapters. If it says anything there other than some sort of standard VGA adapter, RIGHT click on that/those and choose Uninstall for each entry that doesn't say that, but DO NOT reboot - that sets the video to a safevga mode - then install the drivers you want to install.
If you DON'T do that, you often get a message about a SEVERE ERROR or similar while installing the display drivers and usually when you get that error the drivers have not installed properly.

If that was only black screen after Windows was supposed to load, sometimes the specific ATI drivers (this can apply to any maker's video drivers) don't detect the monitor properly right after you have first loaded the drivers , especially if the monitor was NOT already on for a few seconds when you booted, and as a result you get no video in Windows. If that continues to be the case after you have rebooted several times, you boot into Enable VGA mode and load the specific drivers for your monitor, or Plug And Play Monitor drivers if the monitor supports that but that's a poor choice for a LCD monitor if you can load specific drivers, then boot normally and you will have video in Windows.
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It you have Catalyst loaded, you can have problems if you change the display drivers version without also changing the Catalyst version. The display drivers version changes more often than the Catalyst version, so a newer or older display drivers version MIGHT work fine with the existing Catalyst version, but if the display drivers version is not listed along with the same Catalyst version on the ATI video drivers pages (you can look up previous drivers) , that can cause problems.

For older chipsets there may be a ATI Control Panel listed in Add/Remove Programs instead of Catalyst - that's what ATI used before Catalyst - the same applies.


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