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Name: mastersea
Date: December 6, 2007 at 15:49:32 Pacific
Subject: quad core question
OS: xp
CPU/Ram: p4
Manufacturer/Model: acer
Comment:

i know playing games running virus scanning burning cds dvds and several others r possible same time on quad core but still want to know how this possible i mean the hard disk will bottle neck and im sure i will get error on cds and dvds after burning when i will play them on dvd players and im also sure i will get lag in games coz the hard disk will be bottle neck is this mean dual core quad core and more cores r useless coz of hard disk is bottle necking do we need multi hard disk or what plz tell me im confussed


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Response Number 1
Name: jefro
Date: December 6, 2007 at 16:06:46 Pacific
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Microsoft offers an application called performance monitor. It is a great way to determine almost every aspect of a system booted to a modern MS OS. The tests may not be exactly in terms that a common user might understand but all performance data is collected and can be displayed or logged. It is the only way to determine system usage. (or similar apps)

For the most part a quad core with the proper applications can run faster not only because of the extra processors but because the rest of the system is also updated.

There is about no slower component than a hard drive. But that goes back to what your system is using (you are using it for)

I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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Response Number 2
Name: mastersea
Date: December 6, 2007 at 16:12:37 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

still i want to repeat my question ur reply not enough sorry


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Response Number 3
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 6, 2007 at 16:44:50 Pacific
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Are you trying to determine if buy a quad core CPU is worthwhile or not? You are correct about the HDrive being a possible bottleneck. I am not a gamer nor did you mention what type of games so I can't really comment on them. Online or shootemup games are probably in two different catagories.

Burning optical media could be CPU and HDrive intensive or it could simply be memory intensive. Depends if you are duplicating a disk on the fly, or ripping a DVD. Different tasks completely. Disk copying from disk to disk if TWO drives are used and are configured correctly can read and write directly to the memory, so the HDrive may not be involved at all.

Generally speaking it isn't a good idea to perform multiple intensive tasks concurrently. Modern burners have burnproof technology incorporated into the drive that shouldn't allow buffer underrun but it still can be resouce intense, as can gaming.

IMO I don't think you should be using the computer for any other activities when scanning the drive.


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Response Number 4
Name: Bryco
Date: December 6, 2007 at 18:08:07 Pacific
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I too wouldn't consider running processor intensive tasks concurrently unless I was paying by the hours of usage of the PC :)

Bryan


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Response Number 5
Name: beckrl
Date: December 6, 2007 at 18:20:36 Pacific
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Dual Core,Quad Core and Multitasking.

http://www.intel.com/technology/arc...

Multi Hard disk will add space but would still be bound by the limits of the processor and memory. As for the Dual,Quad cores this as in the link shows how it inceases the performance of the processor, but still there are limits of Multitasking as noted by OtheHill. Others may give more understanding on Core technology.


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Response Number 6
Name: lordmanhamer
Date: December 7, 2007 at 04:11:27 Pacific
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go this is alot of long winded replys. basicly yes and no.
if your using hard disk intensive task for the four tasks yes the hard drive will bottle neck. if your not then its fine. as for cd's or dvd's not working pffffff thats a load if dingos kiddneys. the software if you get nero and you get a decent drive with under burn will cope with the bottle neck and will just pause the burn till data is ready for it.

as for quick explination of what would kill the system.
secenario i can think of is you have a computer with not enough ram. so op system needs to use virtual memory extensivly and your trying to encode a dvd this too is hard disk intensive and just to put the iceing on the cake say your transfering a file from one hard disk to another then this will slow the pc to a crawl.

but if your playing a game listening to an mp3 and downloading a file on a comp with plenty of ram then there wont be any noticible slow down might take a bit longer to load the levels but you wont notice.

if your really worried about it you could stripe the hard disks. but this needs a raid 0 compatible mobo 2 disks of equal size. what it does is puts a file on 2 disks so simply it chops the file into segments and places the first on disk 1 second on disk 2, 3rd on disk one and so forth so the data is striped. this means the data can be read off quicker. but dont bother with all that means a new install and all the hastle that goes with it.

i sudgest get a cool drink sit back relax and go "i got a quade core means it goes all the way up to 11!! 1 louder then 10 init!"

all text needs typos. There there for the reader to find,to distract them from the total lack of content.
google it! wasnt the answer to the question i asked so dont be dense and give me that repl


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Response Number 7
Name: mastersea
Date: December 7, 2007 at 05:35:18 Pacific
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sound like quad core is useless for multi tasking then what? should i wait for 8 core or more or dual hard disk is this y intel says quad core is perfect for multi tasking


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Response Number 8
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 7, 2007 at 05:48:00 Pacific
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You are abusing the word multitasking. there are many tasks that you could perform at the same time. The tasks you are mentioning are intensive and place a strain on any system. As lordhammer stated, burning can be done along side other tasks but it can slow down everything.

Think surfing the web, writing a document on Word, playing solitair or even listening to music while burning a disk. Those types of things are possible with any fast CPU. Defragging your harddrive or scanning for viruses is something that shouldn't be multitasked, regardless of the processor.

All advances in computer hardware are incremental. The quad core processor is no doubt more effiecent than its predecessors. Will the next generation of hardware be even better? Absolutely, however waiting for the next improvement will have you sitting on the sidelines forever.


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Response Number 9
Name: jefro
Date: December 8, 2007 at 13:59:47 Pacific
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Let me try again.

You, your system and your usage determines if a quad core will help.

I have no need for one but my wife could easily use a 64X machine.

I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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