Do you already have all the hardware listed except for the processor? Thunderbirds ran really hot. The finished system isn't worth spending alot on. If you need to buy processor and RAM I would suggest not doing it.

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thx i have the ram and everything else i found the revision number is 1.0 and i emailed ecs to ask for the manual and if anyone can get it for me id really appreciate it. other than the thunderbird can i put on a duron 1.4Ghz instead on this board because the ecs site dosn't say how high this board will take?? anything guys plz help me out Thx in advance!!!

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You should be able to install most any 200 or 266 FSB duron or athlon processor. I don't know the multiplier settings on the MB. That would be the limitation. Download the manual and see what it says about multipliers. If set by jumper or BIOS and what multipliers are available. Find the manual download here: http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?DetailID=229&DetailName=Manual&DetailDesc=K7SEM(1.0)&MenuID=45&LanID=8

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thx for the manual and this mobo dosn't have any jumpers for the multiplier and it's all built into the bios and i just want an Athlon xP 2200+ as long as it'll work thx guys for everything and ill read the manual P.S: where can i buy refurbished parts online from canadian stores anyone??? Thx in advance!!!

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Have you updated the BIOS as stated in earlier response????? DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER

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Jeez you do get around....... http://www.computing.net/hardware/wwwboard/forum/33903.html http://www.computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/11459.html DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER

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sorry about all the posts i ifured no one would read them after a while, sorry guys...anyways i can't flash the bios cuz i have no processor for it and it wont boot anyways the manual isnt helpful and i think i can put in an athlon 1700+ wit a 266Mhz FSB, what do guys think??? Thx in advance!!!

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BIOS is here why do we provide links when they are not used???? cut & paste... http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?DetailID=229&DetailName=BIOS&DetailDesc=K7SEM(1.0)&MenuID=45&LanID=8 DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER

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The Athlon 1.4Ghz would be a better choice till flash BIOS. DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER

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thx i have to now get an athlon 1.4 and then flash and then buy an athlon 2400 thx guys i hope my flashing goes well ive had a few mobos die on me from flashing thx again Thx in advance!!!

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hey guys only one problem, the flash says that the mobo has an award bios and i have phoenixbios on mine??? im really wondering whether this version is the same as mine, i know as stated abaove that my mobo says "ECS K7SEM REV: 1.0 A01-010100 plz help me out here i really want to get this system up and running Thx in advance!!!

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Again, I say, you are spending too much cash on this system. To buy two Processors for an obsolete system is crazy. Sell the Ram and MB on Ebay and get something newer. When processors get a certain age the price quits falling and many times goes up.

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ok i guess ur right but i like to build a system to beat my pentium 2 system:( i now it's really sad im running a pentium 2 still, but im 14 and i need a better comp so i have a hdd a mb and ram all i need is a processor but someone told me that award is made by phoenix technologioes so i can update this bios?? i think if i SUCXESSFULLY update the bios it will accept my athlon 2100+ but the ecs site states that my mobo will accept an athlong 2100 so do i really need to updatre the bios??? Thx in advance!!!

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longman I am not trying to put down your system but I am saying you need to look at how much cash you're spending and what you'll have when done. There are bargains out there. How much cash do you think you would spend to but the two processors you talked about using?

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ok i understand what ur saying and so far ive put 0$ on it and all i need is an athlon or athlon xp processor but for around 20-40$ it's worth it i think and all i need is to know if flashing my bios is really appropriate because i have had a few instances where ive killed motherboards by flashing the bios thx again and thx for helping me so far Thx in advance!!!

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I would borrow a processor from one of your friends to use to flash the BIOS and then look at the settings to determine what 266 FSB processor that BIOS will support. If you killed MBs flashing the BIOS you are doing something wrong. If performed correctly by a well prepared person with reliable power to the computer there should be no problems flashing. You weren't sure of the MB version. This is critical to a good flash. You MUST have the correct flash file and the correct flash program for the file you are using. I recommend only flashing from a floppy disk. If you are going to try this here is how I recommend proceeding. As I said, borrow a processor that you are sure will run in that MB. Get the system up and running with Windows installed. Download Everest home Edition and use it to determine the version and model of the MBoard. Then download the correct flash file and program. Follow the instructions on how to setup the floppy. After the sucessful BIOS flash you MUST immediately enter the BIOS and set all setting to default plus reset time and date. After all that, you should be able to determine what Processor to buy and return the borrowed one. I have a 1.1 duron myself that I have used like that in the past. If you can't find anyone to borrow a processor from then buy the cleapest you can find for flashing. Any 200FSB or 266FSB AMD processor will probably boot up in that MB. Even if the BIOS doesn't support it. I hate to tell you this will work for sure though. I have seen this happen before when folks bought a MB with an older BIOS date and installed a fast processor. Of course, sometimes the system won't boot. Are are sure this MBoard you have is good?

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On ebay in the UK you can get a whole rig, Atlhon 1000, 128 Mem , MoBo for around £50, totally overpriced for an unknown quantity considering for the same money you can buy this which is brand new: http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=MBK-PVCLE266 http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=MER-128-26 or http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=86625 http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=6325288719&action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=20928 Unfortunately older hardware prices remain artificially high becuase people are not prepared to find out cheaper alternatives, and spend time and money trying to save money. I totally agree with OtheHill that after 30 posts you are still no further forward. DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER

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thx guys but unfortunately im only 14 in the first place and i only got 50 $ to spend on this rig and no job so i try to build from my motherboards i have and ram i have and hdd all im missing is the processor, i checked the website again for the last few hours and i foudn it supports it to 2200+ and if i want to go higher i need an update so i think ill stick wwithout the update and my neighbour will help me set this rig up wit a processor he's got to test this system out im not totally dumb and know my stuff just the manual said it dsupports all athlons and i got confused thx guys for everything P.D: i live in canda so money is even tighter Thx in advance!!!

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Don't be too afaid of flashing the BIOS if it becomes necessary. I covered much of it above. Good Luck PS Come back again if you need help once you assemble the rest of the parts.

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Good luck.............. DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER

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thx guys Thx in advance!!!

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