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Name: Vladimir88
Date: June 21, 2007 at 09:26:10 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
OS: Windows XP
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Hi guys, I am having problems with my monitor and/or graphics adapter.
The monitor is Philips 190/S, 19 inches.
The card is NVidia GeForce FX 5200.

The problem is that I see strange flicker and "waves" passing through the screen.
My refresh rate is setu at maximum for this LCD monitor - 75 MHz, so it's not the refresh rate that is causing the flicker.

The flicker is noticeable only on dark (especially dark grey) backgrounds but I guess that it is there all the time, just not that noticeable.

For example, when I am trying to view this image I can see the flicker and waves.
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/...

It takes some time until you learn how to spot it but still, it is there and it is not some trick of the eyes caused by the checkered image - I can see the flicker on smooth dark grey backgrounds too.

Sometimes it is stright vertically wobbling lines, other times it is "waves" passing from the botoom right coner to the upper left.

Another thing: correct me if I am wrong but when you are videotapiing a turned on LCD/TFT monitor, ther emust NOT be flicker like when videotaping a CRT, right?
In other words, the LCD must produce a completely still, non-flickerring picture, right?

Well, I videotaped my monitor and it flickers on the recording.
I uploaded it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oeY...
Please, лоок ат тхе жидео анд tell me if this is OK.

What may be causing this flicker?
How to get rid of it?
Do you see same flicker lines when you are looking at the picture I posted above?

Damn, I bought a TFT to avoid flicker and to ease on my eyes but now the damn thing flickers more than a frigging CRT. :(



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Response Number 1
Name: OtheHill
Date: June 21, 2007 at 09:50:27 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
Reply: (edit)

For one thing LCD displays don't need to run at a refresh rate of 75. What resolution are you using. LCD displays work best when set to thier native resolution. Any other setting forces the display to extapolate and you will get pixelation. Try setting the refresh rate to 60 and set to native resolution, which is 1280 x 1024. Also, if drivers are available for the display they should be installed. Look under Advanced settings for graphics and se if the display is idendified by model. If not you may need drivers.


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Response Number 2
Name: jackbomb
Date: June 21, 2007 at 10:46:26 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
Reply: (edit)

What you're referring to is pixel jitter, and it's a pretty common occurrence on low-cost LCD monitors connected via the analog/VGA cable.

If you want to get rid of it, the easiest way is to buy a DVI cable and connect the monitor to the PC digitally.

While LCDs usually don't flicker on videotape, when they do, it's usually because of the flourescent backlight getting old. Flourescent lamps flicker by nature, though it isn't usually noticeable on newer LCDs.

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Response Number 3
Name: Vladimir88
Date: June 21, 2007 at 11:40:22 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
Reply: (edit)

Thanks guys, I hope that connecting the monitor through the DVI plug will help.
The monitor is relatively new (bought it 6 months ago)
The monitor's drivers are installed and I am using its native resolution (1280 x 1024). I don't think that setting the refresh rate to 60 Hz would help. It may actually make it flicker more (what happened when I was fighting monitor flicker while using a TV tuner).

I ahope it's the analog connection causing noises and interferences or something like tahat.
Don't want to mess with customer service - it's crap anyway.



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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: June 21, 2007 at 12:57:29 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
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"I don't think that setting the refresh rate to 60 Hz would help"

Try it.

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Response Number 5
Name: Vladimir88
Date: June 21, 2007 at 16:00:44 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
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^ I did try that, of course.
It did not solve the problem, just as I expected.


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Response Number 6
Name: Vladimir88
Date: June 26, 2007 at 17:32:25 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
Reply: (edit)

I used a DVI adapter that allows you to use the DVI output of your graphics card.
It did not help.
There is still flicker.
Should I use a DVI cable? Would it be of any help at all considering that the DVI adapter did not work?

Another thing: When i plugged my monitor through the DVI connection, the image became blurred. This was especially noticeable on fonts.
i know how to correct this - normally it takes only a push of the AUTO button of the monitor but this time the blur did not go away.
I re-installed the monitor's drivers and there was zero effect.

Anyway, I am more concerned about the flicker. I can live with the blur.

What could be possibly causing this annoying flicker?
How to make it stop?

Thanks!


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Response Number 7
Name: Vladimir88
Date: June 27, 2007 at 18:03:06 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
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Read my last post, please.


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Response Number 8
Name: Vladimir88
Date: June 30, 2007 at 09:56:05 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
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Anybody with an answer?
I just need to know if a DVI cable would make any difference.
The DVI adapter did not.


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Response Number 9
Name: OtheHill
Date: June 30, 2007 at 13:40:59 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
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When using an analog display on a DVI port an adapter is necessary. Is the Phillips display analog, digital, or both? I assume you have both types of ports on your graphics card. You aren't using a TV out port are you?


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Response Number 10
Name: Vladimir88
Date: June 30, 2007 at 13:59:17 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
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I don't know whether it is digital or analog.
Guess it has both inputs because I just noticed another plug on its back - it's a DVI plug.

I guess I will be needing another DVI adapter for the other end of the cable to make the thing run completely digital?

Seems that last time I tried to fix the flicker, I connected my card's DVI exit to my monitor's analog intput.

I will buy another DVI adapter and I will try to use it through its DVI in.
Let's see what happens on Monday.


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Response Number 11
Name: OtheHill
Date: June 30, 2007 at 15:02:20 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
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You need a DVI cable not two adapters.


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Response Number 12
Name: Vladimir88
Date: June 30, 2007 at 16:08:43 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
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What's wrong with using two adapters?
I thought that they would turn my "normal" cable into a DVI cable?
Isn't that what they are made for? :(


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Response Number 13
Name: OtheHill
Date: June 30, 2007 at 21:04:38 Pacific
Subject: Problem with a TFT / LCD monitor
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No, they are made so you can use a DVI port with an analog monitor. DVI cable is different. Look here: http://www.pacificcable.com/DVI_Tut...


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