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Primary IDE channel wont work

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Name: imperial86
Date: August 31, 2005 at 22:44:57 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Pro SP2
CPU/Ram: P4 2.53ghz/768 mb RAM
Comment:

I'm having a weird problem.
I've had my motherboard for a couple years now and its worked no problem. Then i was having problems with the computer not being able to POST, see (http://www.computing.net/hardware/wwwboard/forum/37412.html)

Anyways i decided to put my computer in a new case because the one it was in is fairly crappy and I hoped by taking everything out and putting it back together I could get my computer to work again. Well as soon as I finished putting it into the new case, it POSTed but...

it didn't detect any of my harddrives, it detected my CD drives though. So tried a few combinations, I had both my harddrives on seperate IDE channels and it would only detect the one on the second channel. I also switched around cables and stuff and it seemed that it couldn't detect any harddrives on the Primary IDE channel.

Anyone got any ideas on why its not working in the Primary channel or am I gonna be stuck with my HD on the secondary channel?

Mobo: Epox 4SDA5+
HD1: Seagate 40gb Barracuda (5400 rpm) (ST340810A)
HD2: Seagate 80gb Barracuda (7200 rpm)(ST380013A)
768 mb RAM
Pentium 4 2.53 ghz



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Response Number 1
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: August 31, 2005 at 23:13:07 Pacific
Reply:

Make sure the primary IDE channel is enabled in cmos/bios setup. Make sure the hard drives are properly identified in cmos/bios setup.


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Response Number 2
Name: imperial86
Date: September 1, 2005 at 00:37:54 Pacific
Reply:

Well i did have to reset the CMOS earlier, but I've gone through the BIOS and pretty much everything is set on auto.

Its weird because I used to have my 2 hard drives on the primary channel and 2 cd drives on the secondary channel.

I know the cables are fine because when i just plug in the end of the cable the goes into the mobo into the primary channel it won't be detected, but when i plug it into the secondary channel, it will be detected.

Is it even possible that I could have shorted out just one of the channels without damaging anything else? This channel was working before so there must be some setting somewhere to get it to work agian, any suggestions?


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Response Number 3
Name: lefty2053
Date: September 1, 2005 at 07:35:18 Pacific
Reply:

Clearing the CMOS battery should fix it if the channel is working. When you start the PC go into BIOS and instead of AUTO detect, manually detect the hard drive. Only put one drive in to start with.

<===Lefty===


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Response Number 4
Name: imperial86
Date: September 1, 2005 at 18:35:24 Pacific
Reply:

Ok I reset the bios and that didnt help. My BIOS doesnt really have an option for manual detection.

It has "IDE HDD Auto Detection" and if i hit enter it tries to detect the harddrive.
Then it has "IDE Primary Master/Slave" which i can set to auto/manual/none
and then it has "Access Mode" which i can set to chs/lba/large/auto

Ive tried using manual for IDE Primary Master but it doesn't work. I set it to manual restart but no where is there any place i see for me to enter in the details manually.

Also interestingly when I have my CD drives on the Primary channel and my HDs on secondary, it displays the correct names for my HDs but the names for the CD drives are completely different. Like one is normally JMS followed by some digits, but now it shows "HIMs xH-Hd164s" but the other way around it doesn't show anything for the HDs.

Pls any suggestions would be appreciated, I need to copy my old HD onto my new one and I need to be able to boot from the CD drive to do that :(


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Response Number 5
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 1, 2005 at 19:48:35 Pacific
Reply:

It sounds like the bios is reading the firmware wrong on whatever drives are connected to the primary. A bios upgrade might fix it.

If the cdroms work OK otherwise on the primary you should be able to use the PC OK with the cd drives on primary and the hard drives on the secondary. Usually the bios doesn't need to specifically identify a cdrom the way it does a hard drive.

You could also buy an ATA card and connect the drives to it and avoid using the on-board controllers.


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Response Number 6
Name: HDR
Date: September 5, 2005 at 02:26:00 Pacific
Reply:

check that you did not knock off a jumper when you replaced the drives.

HDR


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