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Name: jnjritz
Date: March 24, 2005 at 15:48:40 Pacific
OS: win xp pro sp2
CPU/Ram: amd xp 3200+ 1 gig ram
Comment:

i have a really stupid question.
i have a msi k7n2 delta2 mother/b
i have 350 watts for power now can i put a 500 watts power supplie on it insead of the 350?
question is will it help or hurt to add the 500 watt system.if it will help how and if it will hurt how ? thanxs



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Response Number 1
Name: angrymen2001
Date: March 24, 2005 at 15:58:32 Pacific
Reply:

It will never hurt.
the watts (or power) is what the power supply is rated. In other words you can run enough equipment that would add up to a total of 500 watts. If you have a system that is running at say 400 watts, it is only using 400 watts. Think of it as would it damage my 8 cylinder car to run at 90 MPH? As opposed to a 4 cylinder which would get damaged. (8 cylinder can handle more power) Now would an 8 cylinder get damaged at 30 MPH? Of course the answer is no.

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Response Number 2
Name: StuartS
Date: March 24, 2005 at 15:58:36 Pacific
Reply:

You can put a 500 watt power supply in. Put a 1000 watt power supply in if you can find one, the result will be the same. It wont do any harm.

Watts are a measurement of power. The computer will only use as much power as it needs. 500 watts is the maximum power the PSU can supply. If less is demanded, less will be supplied.

Stuart


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Response Number 3
Name: angrymen2001
Date: March 24, 2005 at 15:59:55 Pacific
Reply:

Beat ya by 4 seconds!!
Finally, I'm usually the slower one.

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Response Number 4
Name: jnjritz
Date: March 24, 2005 at 16:03:25 Pacific
Reply:

LMAO thanks guys thats the only thing i havnt messed with just making sure it would help not hurt thanks a bunch


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Response Number 5
Name: angrymen2001
Date: March 24, 2005 at 16:05:34 Pacific
Reply:

The only time it would help is if you need the power. If you don't need more power, then it won't help anything.

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Response Number 6
Name: jnjritz
Date: March 24, 2005 at 16:08:41 Pacific
Reply:

ok is there a way you can tell if it needs it to me it was like the v8 thing id rather have it than not you know


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Response Number 7
Name: angrymen2001
Date: March 24, 2005 at 16:11:02 Pacific
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I used to have a link for calculating how much power you need, but can't find it. You are correct in thinking you would rather have it, but why spend the mone if it's not necessary? Hopefully someone else will have that link for you. I'll look again and repost if I find it.

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Response Number 8
Name: angrymen2001
Date: March 24, 2005 at 16:13:24 Pacific
Reply:

just found it
http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/

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Response Number 9
Name: jnjritz
Date: March 24, 2005 at 16:26:06 Pacific
Reply:

it sez im running 291 and i looked i have a 300 in the system sorry i thought i had a 350 so i prob should get a bigger so i can add huh?


i know about other things just not the power if i can ever help man keep my email and ill try n help


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Response Number 10
Name: StuartS
Date: March 24, 2005 at 16:41:34 Pacific
Reply:

>>Beat ya by 4 seconds!!<<

Damn! I can't type as fast on a laptop!

A quick lesson on Ohms Law for you jnjritz.

There are four parameters involved - Power(Watts), Current(I), Voltage (V), and Resistance(Ohms)

There is a mathematical relationship between all four. Change one, and it effects the others.

In a computer power supply, the voltage remains constant. There are voltage regulators to make sure they do. The currant drawn is a function of the voltage and the resistance. More current drawn, more power used.

Resistance is produced by the components in the circuit, disk drives, graphics card, memory etc.. The lower the resistance, the more current and more power.

The resistance in the circuit is lowered when a component in installed. Take all the components out of the circuit and the resistance is infinity and no current is drawn. As you add things, the resistance starts to decrease, thus drawing more current.

If the resistance gets to low, then the circuit starts dewing more current than the power supply can provide and things start going wrong.

If the resistance should ever get to zero, then the smoke starts escaping.

http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslaw.asp

Stuart


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Response Number 11
Name: jnjritz
Date: March 24, 2005 at 16:55:46 Pacific
Reply:

thanks man that helps ill have to read in to it a lil more.


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Response Number 12
Name: jnjritz
Date: March 24, 2005 at 16:59:36 Pacific
Reply:

duh im a moron i read your post again and i get it kinda flew over head first time but i get it now i wanted to add a couple lights and other modds so ill stop now till i get a bigger supply
(feels really stupid lmao)


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Response Number 13
Name: setishock
Date: March 24, 2005 at 19:13:49 Pacific
Reply:

My up take on this whole thread is this.
Shop carefully for anything you get for your computer. Don't get all starry eyed over led fans and a pretty shiny finish.
I did and I was very lucky that POS vigor 400 didn't take out my system. As it stands the floppy was the only loss. I now have an Allied 400watt job. Looks like a tank but takes the abuse I throw at it doing hardware beta testing. Some of that stuff is real power guzzlers.
Just shop and shop some more then buy...

I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid...


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Response Number 14
Name: jam
Date: March 24, 2005 at 19:48:30 Pacific
Reply:

You should have a minimum of 16-18A on the +12v rail & that accounts for close to 200 watts alone

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Response Number 15
Name: jnjritz
Date: March 24, 2005 at 19:54:08 Pacific
Reply:

thank you guys youve been a big help ill start shopping around


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Response Number 16
Name: jam
Date: March 24, 2005 at 20:18:14 Pacific
Reply:

Check the links I posted here:

http://www.computing.net/hardware/wwwboard/forum/33886.html

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1800+ @ 8 x 210MHz
512MB PC3200
Asus Ti4800SE 128MB
WinME/WinXP Pro


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Response Number 17
Name: jnjritz
Date: March 25, 2005 at 05:30:38 Pacific
Reply:

cool i checked them out last niht after you posted them those links where a big help thanks


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Response Number 18
Name: jnjritz
Date: March 25, 2005 at 19:08:57 Pacific
Reply:

i was looking around today and found a couple i wanted to c if anybody had any luck with them th ultra 500 with disconnect power lines i wanted it to clean up in my case a lil
if you know let me know i'd hate to fry my stuff with a bad part you know


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