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Name: Michael2k5
Date: May 20, 2005 at 16:00:44 Pacific
OS: 2000
CPU/Ram: amd athlon xp 2000+ 25
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Hi all, first post here :)

Just built a new system today but having a few problems, like I always do! .....
You probably have all heard this problem time and time again but anyway...All the componements inside the system, all wires/cables connected up, turn it on fan/hard drive/ CD R and the case lights go on, but I don't hear no 'beep's' from the system, and no signal is being picked up by the monitor...The motherboard has 'onboard' graphics and I've tried PCI cards, AGP Cards but nothing...I made sure I didn't scracth or damage the motherboard in anyway and it still manages to cock up! :@
I've had this problem once before with no beeps...whats going on!

Also I don't know if this has anything to do with it, because im still not 100% there with computers yet! but...I was connecting the 'front panel' cables to the m'board and I noticed that there wasn't a 4 pin 'speaker' cable...they had the 'reset, power, HDD' leds but not the speaker? This is a new light up case, so are these different in some way? IM RATHER LOST BY THAT BY THE WAY! lol

Also bit more information for you if it helps...im using the parts from my old system. IE: Hard Drive which still has all the files and everything on it from my old system, suppose I should off re-formatted it first!

Cheers guys, hope someone can help...I got lots of hammers sitting in my toolbox and im tempted to use them!

:)



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Response Number 1
Name: Richard59
Date: May 20, 2005 at 16:17:24 Pacific
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Strip it down again. Benchtest the motherboard outside the case by connecting only powersupply, CPU with heatsink, 1 stick of ram, monitor and keyboard. Since you have onboard graphics don't even plug in a graphics card. Identify the power pins for the front switch wires and eother connect the wires so you can use the switch or use a screwdriver to bridge the pins to trigger startup. Can you get POST? Any display? If not then one of those components is bad. Do you have spare powersupply? Do you have spare CPU? Try a different stickof ram.
Once you get it to post and boot into bios outside the case then put the mobo back in paying particular attention to the number and location of standoff supports. Get one of those in the wrong place and you can kill the board. Once board is in place reconnect the bare components listed above and boot into bios again. If successful, power off again and connect one component at a time such as axtra ram, floppy drive, harddrive etc testing after each new device to see if any problems. As to whether your old harddrive with operating system will boot in the new environment, I don't know. Personally, I would have backed up any files and formatted the drive ready for a clean instal before pulling it from the old system.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach him to fish and his wife will never forgive you.


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Response Number 2
Name: Jimi_l
Date: May 20, 2005 at 17:23:53 Pacific
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What he said only I would not bother taking it out of the case first. Stip it to bare bones and see if it POSTS.

I would not be too concerned having killed the board. They are actually pretty resilient as are most all computer components.

Jimi_l


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Response Number 3
Name: Sabertooth
Date: May 20, 2005 at 20:08:12 Pacific
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What board is that ?
Did you install standoffs for the board ?

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Response Number 4
Name: Michelle67
Date: May 20, 2005 at 20:17:33 Pacific
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If he doesn't take it out of the case then he will not know if the board is bad or if he just had it screwed in wrong. He can strip it all down and leave the board in place but once he puts all the cards and drives back together and it still doesn't power up then he won't know for sure what is bad. If he tests the board out of the case and it works then he should make sure that he is installing it correctly when he puts it back in.


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Response Number 5
Name: Michael2k5
Date: May 21, 2005 at 06:26:14 Pacific
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Cheers for all your replys people :)

I took it out of the case and guess what...I got a beep! Well a few!

It was 1 long loud beep! The beeps carried on for a while..

Hopefully things should be looking up now :)

Probably sounds like a darft question now but...Does the case 'speaker' wire make all the beeps, think I didn't have that connected properly..

Thanks all, will I be able to put my hammers away now? lol


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Response Number 6
Name: Jimi_l
Date: May 21, 2005 at 06:50:27 Pacific
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You can't have it "screwed in wrong" It is either shorting out, which his hugely unlikely, or it isn't.

A motherboard will POST with no standoff's just laying in the case. If he has even a few then that is not his issue.

Taking it out of the case proves nothing. Not to mention that you cannot run it outside the case permently. Put it back together and figure out what component or connection was causing you greif to begin with. All you did was add work for yourself.

Jimi_l


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Response Number 7
Name: Sabertooth
Date: May 21, 2005 at 08:21:56 Pacific
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"It was 1 long loud beep! The beeps carried on for a while.."

Check the installed ram, and ensure it is installed and snapped it tightly, also from my experience when faced with a PC problem that requires a process of elimination, troubleshooting outside the case saves a lot of time and second guessing.


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Response Number 8
Name: Michael2k5
Date: May 21, 2005 at 09:41:24 Pacific
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Hi Guys

Can't believe what has just happened in the last hour...
I got some advice off the internet about the boot up problem, I was told to remove the heatstink/fan for a few seconds, to see if the processor was getting any juice and to see if it would heat up, ceratinly was hot and the processor went up in 'smoke'. God why did I follow that advice!!
Motherboard not going through POST now, think I know why!!

I take it...the motherboard is truely dead now???
Or maybe just a new processor will fix it?

and to think I was gonna get somewere today!



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Response Number 9
Name: Richard59
Date: May 21, 2005 at 15:21:28 Pacific
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You obviously didn't get that advice on this forum. A new CPU might be all that's required to get over the initial problem but your original problem still hasn't been solved. The beep code you mentioned has meaning. check here:
http://bioscentral.com/
for a link to the appropriate beepcode explanation for your motherboard/bios version.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach him to fish and his wife will never forgive you.


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