I don't think there is any way I'll be able to do that Budwise. Nothing like that around where I live. I just need a complete tower. For around 100 Canadian. Also, I like AMD. My comps an AMD Athalon 2 gigahertz, and I'll probably stick with AMD for my next comp.

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Killer, go do your homework!

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I'm with you NAN! LOL! ASUS A7N8X-X Athlon XP 1800+ 8.5 x 200MHz 1024MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7 Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB WinME/WinXP Pro SP1

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Killer doesn't seem to know what he's talking about. anyway, you could get a fair pentium 3 system (by fair i mean competent for basic computing) from ebay for under $150, usually under $100, depending on RAM and stuff. I am a major Ebay-er and if you want relatively cheap, ebay will do it for you. Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours.

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$100 is a fair price. I would try to get $125 for a P3 800 range pc.

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Jam & Nan I am trying to help out. Nan, go home and think why I tell you change your hard drive. You might come up with some reasonable explanation :). Jam, you are better in PCs than I am, therefore I won't tell you anything. However, I would consider AMD Sempron over P3. What would a system which is 150 dollars worth do? Especially used one... it won't even meet the basic needs. In order to have a least a little speed you gotta have at least 512 RAM, and J believe me, I have P3 system with 128 mb Ram, and it was a piece of crap, so I added 512 ram into it 100$ and the system meets minimal requirements for XP. Amd would be better and cheaper. Lider

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Killer, What is your problem? She has already bought her system, is saying $114 shipped, and that is outstanding value. I'd rather have a P III any day of the week than those older Athalons that you could fry an omelet with...leave well enough alone. And just because the hard drive is 20 gb is no reason to throw it out, wait to see if there is a problem, it may be lightly used. we all have big hard drives these days becaus ethey turn faster, and I run 3 businesses on my pc's but have never filled 20 gb yet on any one of them, only secondary drives where I keep image files and those I run 120 gb drives so I can save alot of image files.

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Well, here's my two cents gents! I'm not tossing my 20 GB HDD....or the 8, or the 40....they're all in use (in the same PC no less) thank you very much! I've been running AMD's for a few years now. Mainly because I pay less for the AMD than a comparable Intel when purchasing a brand new CPU. That's not to say I wouldn't buy another Intel. We're presently benching a dual core Intel CPU at work and I'm interested to see how it performs with an eye on buying a new system with that CPU at the core. As to a used PIII...I'd have to agree. A complete working system with a PIII 800 MHz CPU for $100 - $150 is a good deal! Check your local newspaper for people selling and call any/all local used PC stores to see what might be available in your price range. The good side of going that route is, you can boot the PC up and test it to ensure it's working before you buy. eBay is always an option too and like others have said before me, there's some excellent deals available there....and there is a Canadian eBay site....I'm in Canada too and I've looked.

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I'm not gonna buy a PC on EBay. I would some things, but not a desktop. And killer, I know you love AMD because its much cheaper than intel. And for a new PC I would probably agree. But I am buying a USED PC, from a Used store. I've been to many, you don't see many AMD computers at the used stores. Maybe for the newer computers, but not computers during the PIII era. I also highly doubt a PII will be a piece of crap. My friend isn't going to be doing in high end games or anything on it. He has a 400mhz Celeron now, and it is doing him fine, he would just like a little more speed. And a PII would do that for a cheap price. He has only 100, cannot spend more. There is one at a Uses store nearby. It's a PIII 860mhz, 256 ram, and all the extra crap. The only problem is the small hard drive, but that may not be a problem. Not everyone needs a large hard drive. This PC is 96 dollars with Tax. That's Canadian, or $78.50 US.

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Hi J. I just recently did an upgrade for our pastor. He had an old PII, ran a bit slow and he wanted more speed. I put in some more memory and found a Slotkit adapter on eBay, and a PIII 1 Ghz cpu for it. I think the CPU was about $50 and the adapter was about $15. (All USD) He ended up with about 800 Mhz and was thrilled. So, you may not need to build an entire new system, just some upgrading. You might want to look at that angle. Good luck. Bob

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My PIII... http://www.skipcox.net/folding.htm Not bad for ten bucks... Skip

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It's not always so much about the MHz...upgrading the RAM (depending on how much you have) will usually do more for performance than a CPU upgrade. All other thing being equal, I'll take a 600MHz w/512MB over an 850MHz w/128MB anyday. ASUS A7N8X-X Athlon XP 1800+ 8.5 x 200MHz 1024MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7 Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB WinME/WinXP Pro SP1

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I bought my P3 866 with 128mb ram and 20gb hd and 53x cd rom for £100 a coup0le of years ago and I have been very pleased with it It had on board intel graphics but the spec has changed a little since i bought as i have been upgrading it as and when I have time and money. The spec is on my page www.woofgbr.com its halfway down on the right and is the system running defrag in the pic. ive upped the ram to 256, added an nvidia geforce 64mb graphics card and added a DVD rewriter & a creative soundcard rather than the AC97 onboard crap. Also added an 80gb second hard drive. Now it dual boots 98Se and XP Pro and amazingly will run (just) Doom 3 albeit very jerkily but just about playable. All i need now is to get a p3 1.2Ghz for it as the board will take it according to Everest. My main system is a p3 650 and is more than adequate for what i use it for (mainly IRC, E-mail, MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, writing CD`s etc also play games on it :P Its far superior to the AMD 500 that was in it previously. Not everyone wants a dog`s bollocks system I LMFAO at businesses who order p4 3gb and above for word processing!! still it will give me a source of cheaper systems in the near future when they decide to upgrade to Vista by getting new systems. Oh and I also have a P120 that i use as a test bed, and even that can be surprisingly quick depending on what i want to do especially when running Win 3.0 or 3,11 or even 95 (3.0 instals from the cab files on the hard drive in about 10 seconds its actually quicker to reinstall 3.0 than it is to ghoost the image back on) HTH Woof Curiosity may have killed the cat but at least the cat wasn`t bored

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"I bought a system with 866Mhz P3 128MB RAM and 20GB hard drive on Ebay for $114. (Shipped)" Why would you ever pay that much I got a 933Mhz P3, 512mb PC133, 40Gb Harddrive, DVD-rom, High Speed CD-RW. All that FREE!!! it even had Windows XP PRO. Before spending that much money check with a local computer recylceing center. Sunset, expect This to be your last with Our vast return As Death is set At three sixes where hill-beacons burn Darkness, undress Your descending skirts yield a thirsting altar Blood-

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I picked a P3 667 256ram for my son at for 50.00 cdn at a local computer store in Hamilton On., mind you I had to install my own modem,video cards , which both cost 35.00 total And the thing works great!!A " You're only as safe as your last update "

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