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after I formatted one hd from other pc , I make master again back to its case to load xp but pc turns off when reading cd rom. Everything I load in CD rom it turns off. pls reply to miklamf at gmail dot com
Does it turn on again when it shuts off? Xp needs to reboot a few times durring installation. Try to load the CD and the HDD on your primary comp to check if it does the same. How far are you able to get durring XP install before it shuts off?
"The great mass of people ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one" A.H
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when its shuts off it does not back turning on again. But I think its not totally off because I need to do a long press for the power button to totally make it OFF. Then I turn on to restart. In booting process every time when it checks cd rom loaded with cd it really turns off. ?? (or halted since I need long press power to totally off. i see a little power since some led light is on)
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You may need to swap out parts durring your trouble shooting. Did you try my first suggestion? No, XP will not constantly shut the comp off or put into a suspend mode durring boot. At least not to this point. Why was the hard drive was taken out and formated in another comp?
"The great mass of people ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one" A.H
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"Why was the hard drive was taken out and formated in another comp?"
Because I have no bootable disk yet, my xp installer is DVD, and ya it was very wrong instead taking the dvd rom for the computer needed to be formatted. I had the hd taken to where dvd rom is. Its too late. Ya I think the right term is suspend mode durring boot, I dont know how to fix it...
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Let me make sure of something here. Are you using a DVD rom in the second computer? Your boot disk is a DVD correct?
"The great mass of people ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one" A.H
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this is the whole scenario. I have to pc's other one has dvd rom and the other one has cd rom. I need to format pc with cd rom because of virus's. My mistake is taking the hd of pc with cdrom to pc w/dvd slave to format.
After formating i take back hd slave to pc ws cd rom back again (its designated cpu)for xp install. At first the error was "nltdr missing".. but I think I fixed by deleting partition thru floppy dos. I can boot now with C: i think system files were correctly copied. So i need to inxtall xp of course booting to cdrom, then comes the error of "suspend mode durring boot" cdrom wont read cd disc. - I hope this is clear now.. Help me.
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I understand better what you did but I still need you to answer my questions.
"The great mass of people ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one" A.H
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"Let me make sure of something here. Are you using a DVD rom in the second computer? Your boot disk is a DVD correct?"
Im using dvd from 2nd pc because my xp installer is dvd copy. and obiously I can't use it as boot disk since reading dvd or cd in boot its suspended mode...so I use flopy disk..
which i tot shud be used to format but it just hav the floppy dos in the later part..
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Ok do this. Put the Hard Drive back into the first pc and format it again. Then take it back to the 2nd computer and install it. Now take the Dvd rom and also put it in the 2nd computer. Now boot into bios and have it boot from dvd rom first. Reboot and follow the directions. Do not use the floppy disks at all. When "ntlr missing" came up it was because you did not have the bios set to boot from DVD or because you did not press any button to boot from CD/DVD.
"The great mass of people ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one" A.H
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"Now take the Dvd rom and also put it in the 2nd computer. Now boot into bios and have it boot from dvd rom first."
I have done it as I have said when the pc started to read from cd rom, it will suspended mode. Does it possible to be the power supply defective or the processror?
Or is it ok if I will install xp on HD not under its designated cpu?
I think I can install os alone not other devices. Is it possible?
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"have done it as I have said when the pc started to read from cd rom, "
Are calling the DVD-ROM a CD-ROM?
"The great mass of people ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one" A.H
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I am forced to try it with dvd rom and cd rom interchanging.
Please shoot directly to the matter, a dvd rom or cd rom it does not matter at all coz its bios setting is cd/dvd rom.
My case is my pc when reading dvdrom/cdrom optical drive is in suspended mode.
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I'm having a hard time following you. What do you mean by "suspended mode"?
Are you saying that anytime the computer reads a disc, the computer shuts off? Try a different drive if you haven't yet. Since I'm not understanding your problem, it's hard to figure out if you already tried this.
You might have a bad power supply. When the PS needs to supply extra power for your CDROM it may not be able to do so, and causes the computer to restart. That's just a theory, though.
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"a dvd rom or cd rom it does not matter at all coz its bios setting is cd/dvd rom."
You are very wrong here. If this second pc you are attempting to run the boot disk in only has a CD drive, then of course you will have issues. However, if it a DVD drive as well then clarify. You should not be interchangindg CD drive and DVD drives. Put the CD drive aside and work only with the DVD drive.
"The great mass of people ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one" A.H
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say if I am wrong of inserting a dvd write installer to a cd rom, ya its wrong i knew, but I think it will not caused suspended mode reading cdrom or booting from cd, like I am experiencing now.
everytime it reads dv or cd rom drive its suspended mode. In floppy it does not. the bios can detect cd or dvd rom even i swap.
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I would try using differnt disk drives or a different XP disk. Also if compatible, use the power supply from the working computer in the second one.
"The great mass of people ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one" A.H
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This post makes little sense.
As near as I can make out he has taken the drive out, connected to another computer and transferred the systems files across to make it bootable.
Quote from post 6 "I can boot now with C: i think system files were correctly copied."
Now he's trying to boot a dvd from a cd-rom drive: "So i need to inxtall xp of course booting to cdrom, then comes the error of "suspend mode durring boot" cdrom wont read cd disc."
Chances are the dvd is not bootable, worse still I wonder if the dvd is holding a copy of xp directly off the hard drive as opposed to an instalation disk.
Why would XP be on a dvd, it only comes on a cd even if it was copied, disk copy would deny a dvd, if XP files were copied from XP cd to dvd it would not be bootable.
Defies logic why you would use a dvd when only a cd is required.
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as I have said I have tried to swap optical drives cd to dvd roms becuase of that suspended mode.
To make it clear after I formatted the hd so I have to install xp , firts I tried to used cd rom, when booting from cd rom because I insert the xp installer (i even tried xp 2000,etc)became suspended mode. So I swap the dvd rom , booting again , set first boot to cdrom still suspended mode.
Even though I let to finished booting process since I can prompt to C: now its formatted. When I have to put something to cdrom it will suspend mode. even not installer cds. (I tried swapping cd rom to dvd rom thinking to eradicate suspend mode)
I might think that its the cmos battery or the power supply.
The context is: "what makes this crap reading to an optical drives makes suspended mode or hybernate?"
I think its really hard to fix this s---, I even mistaken to be illogical.
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anmor, dude, windows xp does NOT only come on CD, they come on dvd as well. that's for one thing. now miklamf is telling us 'suspend/hibernate', but what he really means, is HANG.
your computer hangs, it gets stuck. that's why you have to power down by long press of the power button. if it's using the same power supply it was using before you swapped cd with dvd, chances are your power supply is probably ok.
here's my humble advice:
use only the dvd rom on both pcs, but i don't see how that would help you, because you would install xp 100% on the second pc, therefore installing the default chipset drivers on the hard disk. so when you put that hd back in the first pc, you will most likely get a blue screen and reboots and hangs. rarely, it works. but not really.
so put all hard disks back to their original pc's, then set them to master, and use primary IDE for them. then, take the dvd rom, make it MASTER as well, but plug its cable into IDE 2. when your system boots, it should read: found primary master hard disk and found secondary master dvd rom. then install xp and let me know how it went. stop messing with master/slave setting jumpers man, one hd = master on ide1, one dvd rom= master on ide2.
i hope you're not using sata ? i keep talking about IDE ..
I always say it's best to doublecheck.
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and yes I tried it master too hd primary , cdrom secondary(of course I knew sata), and really when the cdrom reads something it will suspend / hibernate / hang .
Here's a new thing when I tried to disconnect every devices except for microprocessor alone I found out that its stops , I mean goes with hibernate , am I correct to say that the error is microprocessor? I suspect also the power supply and the bios battery.
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