Overheating on games now on startup

Cyberpower pc Gamer ultra 7000 elite des...
August 8, 2010 at 20:06:36
Specs: Windows Vista 64
Ok, so about two weeks ago I could play anything and do anything on my desktop. I was playing around with AVA and online FPS and downloaded their patch file.

Once I downloaded their patch file, my computer would just randomly shut off while playing while leaving the power button glowing.

I then put a fan blowing into an open case and it seemed to work fine.

I went on a trip, came back, turned on my computer, tried to play, and it shut down again.

Now it wont even get to the safe mode option before shutting down.

I cleaned the fans, they are all working. My G-force video card is working. I checked my CPU temp which was around 40C and only a little higher on heavy usage of 80% or more.

is going on?

I have a Cyberpower premade with a quad duo core, 4G of memory, 250g hard drive and a GT9500

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August 8, 2010 at 20:48:22
Hey Mate,

I assume you've opened your computer up and cleaned all the parts of dust?

Another thing i can suggest is that the patch you downloaded may of had an infected file, so possibly try and scan your computer of viruses, if you can even get into your desktop, or even remove the patch that you may of downloaded. I think that may most likely be your problem seeing tho you said that after you downloaded the patch your computer would randomly shut off.

I had a computer that would keep randomly shutting of because of a virus.

I couldnt get into it, so when you boot push f8 i know you can't get into Safe Mode, but see if you can load into your last known good configuration, thats what I did to get into the infected computer I had.

Use Spybot Search and Destroy
theres a few others im sure people could list for you and just keep scanning.

worse comes to worse wipe everything either using windows cd, or my computer>right click on local disk and format.

that is that last possible scenario im sure other people could have other ideas.

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August 9, 2010 at 08:04:28
My computer only shut off while playing this game AVA. It was fine other than that, but after returning from my trip, I tried to play AVA again and it shut down again, but now get's to the point where it shows me the computer stats and shuts down again except for the computer power light, that stays on.

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August 9, 2010 at 08:32:59
What's the capacity of your power supply ?

A system with a GT9500 card requires:
Minimum of a 350 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 18 Amp Amps.)

If you PS has a capacity considerably less than that, the PS is eventually damaged from running at 100% of it's capacity all the time or much of the time. Games tend to put the greatest load on the system and the PS.

Your power supply must have at least the minimum capacity required to support a system with the graphics card you are using installed, or the max graphics card you might install in the future.
(Onboard video - video built into the mboard - IS NOT A CARD ! )
If that info is not in the ad for the video card, you can go to the video card maker's web site and look up the specs for the model - often under system requirements - the minimum PS wattage, and, more important, the minimum amperage the PS must supply at 12v is stated. If you don't find that, any card with the same video chipset including any letters after the model number has very similar minimum PS requirements. Some power supplies have two or more +12v ratings - in that case, add those ratings to determine the total +12v current capacity.

If you're a gamer...
In most if not all cases, the max capacity rating of the PS is an intermittent rating. It's recommended that you do not load your PS to any more that 80% of that rating if you are going to be using something that puts a constant load on it, such as playing a recent game for hours on end. In that case, you multiply the min capacity stated for the system with the particular video chipset on the card by 1.25 to find the min. capacity of the PS you should get.

If you need to get a PS with more capacity, you can usually replace it with any decent standard sized standard ATX PS.

Or - even if your PS has more capacity than that,

Failing power supplies are common and can cause your symptoms.
Check your PS.
See response 4 in this:

If it is failing, you can usually replace it with any decent standard sized standard ATX PS with the same capacity or greater.

Standard (PS/2) power supply size - 86mm high, 150mm wide, 140mm deep, or 3 3/8" h x 5 7/8" w x 5 1/2" d , or very close to that, though the depth can be more or less for some PSs.

Don't buy an el-cheapo PS.
See response 3 in this:

Some mboards develop this problem - electrolytic capacitors were installed on them that were not properly made, and they fail eventually - the mboard manufacturer didn't know they were improperly made at the time the mboard was made.

Open up your case and examine the mboard to see if you have bad capacitors, and/or other findable signs of mboard damage .

This was the original bad capacitor problem - has some example pictures.
History of why the exploding capacitors and which mboard makers were affected:

What to look for, mboard symptoms, example pictures:
Home page that site
- what the problem is caused by
- he says there are STILL bad capacitors on more recent mboards.

Pictures of blown capacitors, other components, power supplies, Athlon cpu's, etc.:

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August 9, 2010 at 09:03:51
Wow. Thank you for the response. It is most likey the PS. It used to make a horrible buzzing noise when the computer booted up and would go away after a while and It is 350, but I am sure that I have been running it over 80% for long periods of time (Wow, Modern Warfare, etc). I thought about getting a larger one, but now it looks like I need a new one sooner.

I will also check out the motherboard to see if it could have crapped out.

I appreciate the help.

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August 9, 2010 at 12:24:47
"It used to make a horrible buzzing noise when the computer booted up and would go away after a while"

That could be coming from any fan inside the case. It usually doesn't come from the PS fan(s) unless it's an el-cheapo PS that is using (a) fan(s) that has(have) sleeve bearings.

It's common for it to come from the cpu fan, or a video card fan if that applies.

It can be hard to pin down where it's coming from unless you briefly disconnect a fan, while the fan is making noise.

If a cpu fan spins too slowly, and/or if it makes rattling or screeching noises, most likely to be noticed when the computer has cooled to room temp, has not been used for a while, and then is started up, the cpu fan's bearings are failing - the cpu is likely to overheat as a result of that if it can no longer spin it's full speed - replace it as soon as you can.

NOTE that some optical drives are noisy, and some people mistake that for a noisy fan. If there is a disk in such a drive while booting, the bios will automatically spin it while booting, and it will also spin the disk while loading Windows, and after Windows has loaded, often without lighting up it's led.

"I will also check out the motherboard to see if it could have crapped out."

Other than the possible bad capacitor problem, 95% of the time there's nothing wrong with the mboard.

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