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Name: atarileaf
Date: May 12, 2006 at 06:13:07 Pacific
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This may fall under the "dumb question" department but I'm putting together an older PIII 500 system for my daughter and I need a new PSU and was wondering if a modern 400 or 450 watt PSU would be too much power for a PIII or perhaps wouldn't work properly.

Anyone know if there is any truth to this?
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Response Number 1
Name: Mike Newcomb
Date: May 12, 2006 at 06:23:37 Pacific
Reply:

It does not matter how many watts the psu provides. Provided more are available than actually required.

Think about your house. If in the Uk the lighting circuit supplies 220v with a 5 amp fuse. This will not blow until (5 x 220) >1100watt is reached.

Now you can turn on just one 40w bulb or whatever without problem.

Provided the psu is suitable for and fits your mobo there should be no problem.

Good Luck - Keep us posted.


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Response Number 2
Name: SkipCox
Date: May 12, 2006 at 06:24:02 Pacific
Reply:

The system will only use the power it needs...you won't be shoving 450w down it's throat.

Your PII or PIII should work just fine with a modern psu.

Skip


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Response Number 3
Name: atarileaf
Date: May 12, 2006 at 07:31:09 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you for your quick replies! :)


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Response Number 4
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: May 12, 2006 at 08:33:13 Pacific
Reply:

The only thing you need to be concerned about is whether the main connector from the new standard ATX PS has the same wiring as the one originally connected to the PIII 500 mboard. If the PIII 500 mboard was not in a brand name computer system and is not a server mboard, chances are nearly 100% it uses standard ATX wiring; if it was in a brand name system there is a tiny chance the wiring of the main connector is proprietary, that is, non-standard; if it is a server mboard there is a very good chance the wiring is proprietary. In the latter two cases, you may need to get a new PS that has a main connector that is wired non-standard, or use a wiring adapter to adapt a standard ATX PS to the mboard main connector.
Many recent power supplies can be used on mboards that have either a 20 position main connector, or a 24 position main connector, by means of a one piece 20 position main connector, and a 4 pin connector you can place beside it if needed on mboards that require a 24 position connector. The wiring of the one piece 20 position connector is identical to that of power supplies that have only that connector and no provision for the 24 position connector on the mboard.

The wiring colors are standardized and relate to standard uses at these main connectors. The colors of the wires at the same positions in the main connector, and the numbers of wires at each position (some positions have two wires), must be identical for both the PS originally connected to the PIII 500 mboard and the new PS.

You do not need any more than 250 or 300 watts for the PIII 500 mboard. Some 300 and 350 watt ones are still available. Just don't buy an el-cheapo PS - it should be a brand with a good reputatation, it should have at least a one year warranty, or better, a three year warranty, and it should have anti-short and overvoltage protection built in.


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Response Number 5
Name: Derek
Date: May 12, 2006 at 16:35:41 Pacific
Reply:

Mike Newcomb

Just an aside regarding your explanation in #1 (which I thought was very well put).

Being very pedantic, in fact the Amps marked on any fuse is its "rating", ie it will carry 5A without blowing.

The current level which causes it to blow will depend on the type of fuse (it's characteristics) and time. It can sometimes require more like 10A to rupture a 5A fuse.

I'm from Kent UK btw.

DerekW


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Response Number 6
Name: JimDZ
Date: May 12, 2006 at 22:32:22 Pacific
Reply:

Have an e-machines 400 Mhz machine from 1999. Power supply failed after six years and I got a new one from NewEgg.com $20, and works fine.


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Response Number 7
Name: Mike Newcomb
Date: May 13, 2006 at 00:36:50 Pacific
Reply:

Dear Derek - thanks for your note.

I was trying to keep it simple. The problem with technical answers, is that one can write pages and pages (as sometimes happens here).

Regards - Mike

Good Luck - Keep us posted.


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Response Number 8
Name: JimPIM
Date: May 13, 2006 at 06:37:17 Pacific
Reply:

Hi, Until OHM's law gets repealed the guys are 100% correct. Jim


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Response Number 9
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: May 13, 2006 at 08:34:18 Pacific
Reply:

JimDZ:

There are more poor power supplies being made and sold these days than ever before. If you buy the cheapest PS you can find, you are taking a big gambel. The max capacity rating is often a lie and can't actually be achieved, the PS is made with bare minimum components (they often weigh a lot less than a good PS), its fan(s) may not even have dual ball bearings and if so will not last as long, and it may have no anti-short or overvoltage protection built in that shuts off the PS before it damages other components.
When any power supply fails, whether or not it damages other components is random, but if you buy a better quality power supply, it is much less likely to fail, and even if it does fail it is much less likely to damage other components while doing so.


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Response Number 10
Name: Derek
Date: May 13, 2006 at 13:04:52 Pacific
Reply:

Mike

Sure thing, I know exactly what you mean...

DerekW


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