New video card for my Medion PC 1467

Medion / Pc 1467
September 8, 2009 at 10:33:21
Specs: Windows XP
Currently running factory NVIDIA GeForce 4 Mx4000. Want to upgrade. Can I run a ATI Radeon X1300 256MB DDR2 AGP card in this machine?

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#1
September 8, 2009 at 11:09:00
"Can I run a ATI Radeon X1300 256MB DDR2 AGP card in this machine?"

You probably can, but it's a not a good card.


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#2
September 8, 2009 at 11:09:24
I think your machine came with a 250 watt power supply with 8 amps on the +12v rail. An X1300Pro will use about 3 amps of +12v power; the MX4 series of cards use a little less than 2 amps.

That all means maybe. I imagine your power supply is on the borderline now of running everything and you may need a better psu to run a better video card.

If it does work and you get it cheap, it is a nice upgrade. But if your intention is playing a modern game, you're still out of luck.

Skip


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#3
September 8, 2009 at 11:27:09
Your power supply must have at least the minimum capacity required to support a system with the graphics card you are using installed, or the max graphics card you might install in the future.
(Onboard video - video built into the mboard - IS NOT A CARD!)
You can go to the video card maker's web site and look up the specs for the model - often under system requirements - the minimum PS wattage, and, more important, the minimum amperage the PS must supply at 12v is stated. If you don't find that, any card with the same video chipset including any letters after the model number has very similar minimum PS requirements.
Some power supplies have more than one +12v amperage rating - in that case you add the rated max amperages to determine the total +12v amperage rating.

You can usually replace the original power supply with any decent standard sized standard ATX PS.

Standard (PS/2) power supply size - 86mm high, 150mm wide, 140mm deep, or 3 3/8" h x 5 7/8" w x 5 1/2" d , or very close to that, though the depth can be more or less for some PSs.

Don't buy an el-cheapo PS.
See response 3 in this:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...


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#4
September 8, 2009 at 11:32:24
So I need to also upgrade my power supply. Recommend? And what card would you recommend, not too expensive, please?

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#5
September 8, 2009 at 11:46:36
For the Radeon X1300 AGP chipset ATI recommends a minimum of a 350 watt power supply, but as jam has pointed out, you could choose a card with a better chipset, for starting at not much more money, and that may require a higher minimum PS capacity.

Measure the present power supply's dimensions.

Standard (PS/2) power supply size - 86mm high, 150mm wide, 140mm deep, or 3 3/8" h x 5 7/8" w x 5 1/2" d , or very close to that, though the depth can be more or less for some PSs.

If it's that size you can replace the original PS with any decent standard sized standard ATX PS.

(If it's not that size you'll need one that is the same size as the original one.)

What you need to look for and some brands suggested here..
See response 3 in this:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...


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#6
September 8, 2009 at 11:47:09
I think your Medion will accept a standard size psu. Here's an example of a suitable replacement.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Where do you live? I've found very little information on the Medion pc's other than they're made in Germany?

Skip


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#7
September 8, 2009 at 11:52:42
I live in the US and you're right almost no info to be found. Medion sent me a link for the motherboard specs but it's no good.
"MD8825 - Motherboard and upgrades information
Please follow copy the following URL into your web browser’s address bar which will take you to the motherboard manufacturer’s website where you will find all the technical information you require: http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?...
"
Is the NVIDIA 6600GT any better?

Play some older games but we have a XBox 360 and the PS3 for most of our gaming.


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#8
September 8, 2009 at 11:53:13
If you not in the US you can't order from newegg.com.
If you're in Canada you can order from newegg.ca.

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#9
September 8, 2009 at 12:18:20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Cooler Master 460w will fit but will it work with my motherboard?
and is the Nvidia 6600 gt any better than the x1300?

Can I use a PCI Express card with the motherboard?


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#10
September 8, 2009 at 12:35:06
"Cooler Master 460w will fit but will it work with my motherboard?"

Yes, if your present power supply is standard sized. The main connector is two pieces and can be used with 20 or 24 "pin" sockets on the mboard.
http://www.coolermaster.com/product...

"....is the Nvidia 6600 gt any better than the x1300?"

I don't know much about NVidia video chipsets but I believe the X1300 is better.
The NVidia 8xxx or 9xxx series would probably be better than the X1300.
I could suggest an ATI (Radeon) video chipset card, but in any case, what are you willing to spend?

"Can I use a PCI Express card with the motherboard?"

NO, not with your mboard.

AGP or PCI (without the -E or Express)

An AGP video card performs better than a PCI (without the -E or Express) card.
...........


Medion USA
http://www.medionusa.com/

Scroll down
click on Knowledge base

Product Category - Desktops

Product Model - MD1467
(the list is not strictly in numerical order)

Search for: specifications
or
Search for: all

.......

User's manual (for your Medion model; may be generic, for your computer case).

Customer Care - Download library
Enter the serial number of your system -
see "Where can I find my identification number?"
.....

According to the specs...

"Mainboard - MSI MD-5000 (MS 6701)"

Manual:
http://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/Archi...

NOTE that the mboard may have a MSI bios version (same as for the MSI retail model) or a Medion bios version (brand name specific) .
If it has a Medion bios version, do not use MSI bios updates, because you can't be sure they will work, and if they don't your mboard may never boot again after flashing the bios.
.......

To find ram that will work in your mboard for sure, you use the Medion model (MD1467) if Medion is listed, or the mboard model (MSI or Microstar MD5000 or MS-6701) to search for ram listed for your computer, on a web site where you can look up the ram for your model.
E.g.

MSI - MD5000 (MS-6701) on the Kingston web site
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/con...
(No Medion listings.)

Microstar - MS-6701 on the Crucial web site:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listpa...
(Crucial lists some Medion models but not yours.)

If it's brand name ram, once you know which module ID strings (part numbers) work in your mboard, you can get them from anywhere you like that has ram with those ID strings (part numbers).

Medion - MD1467 on the Memory Giant site:
http://www.memorygiant.com/index.cf...
(MSI - no listing for MD5000 or MS-6701)

Memory Giant doesn't specify the brand - it may be generic ram - but it's guaranteed to work in your mboard.



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#11
September 8, 2009 at 13:35:47
The 6600GT is a little better than the X1350Pro

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

You only have pci and agp slots; a pci-e video card won't work.

The CM psu should work.

Good catch on the Medion USA site Tubes.

Skip


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#12
September 8, 2009 at 13:37:57
"Medion sent me a link for the motherboard specs but it's no good.
"MD8825 - Motherboard and upgrades information.........."

But you don't have an MD8825! I thought it was a PC 1467 (aka MD1467)?

http://www.medion.de/md8825/us/flas...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#13
September 8, 2009 at 13:49:49
"Good catch on the Medion USA site Tubes"

I searched for only: Medion on Yahoo (ca.yahoo.com) - it's the first one listed.

The Mobokive archive has a lot of older MSI mboard manuals, etc. that aren't on the MSI web sites anymore.
........

Skip Cox's PS reference in response 6 is better than the one you picked.

CORSAIR CMPSU-400CX 400W ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS
http://www.corsair.com/products/cx/...

Temperature controlled variable speed double ball bearing 120mm fan, low noise, 3 year warranty (one fan).

Your pick
http://www.coolermaster.com/product...
has a 120mm fan too, but the manufacturer's info doesn't specify the bearings used or whether it is variable speed or low noise. (one fan).

I searched and found the warranty period ONLY in its manual - ONE year, not 3 - and there is no mention of "ball bearing" or "low noise" in it.

Some cheap PS models have fans with one ball bearing, one sleeve bearing, or two sleeve bearings. Sleeve bearings are more likely to fail.
.......

You are better off if you choose a PS that has specs that states it has two ball bearings or better on the fan(s), and at least a three year warranty.

If you haven't already looked at it, or if you have but weren't paying attention, read this:
Don't buy an el-cheapo PS.
See response 3 in this:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...

The brand isn't the only thing you need to heed. Some brands have el-cheapo series of PSs.


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