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New thermal paste needed?

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Name: KtM407
Date: March 10, 2008 at 21:12:47 Pacific
OS: Win XP sp2
CPU/Ram: Athlon 64 x2/1 GB RAM
Comment:

My computer sounded a little loud on startup so I got a can of compressed air and went to town. I unattached my processor heatsink so I could clean it thoroughly but I noticed when I went to put it back on, it wasn't sticking very well. The paste is all smeared and doesn't seem thick the way it was when I first got the processor. Would it be a good idea to remove the current thermal paste and put some new stuff on? Do people usually just keep the same thermal paste forever? Also, what kind of paste would I use with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+?

Also, that little clasp that is suppose to hinge the heat sink into place... it wasn't clasping properly. I think I got the heatsink into place fan, but how much of an issue is it if the thing isn't clasped tightly properly?

Thank you for your replies.



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Response Number 1
Name: jefro
Date: March 10, 2008 at 21:41:03 Pacific
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Unplug the ac cord first. Use ESD strap.


I doubt you need any more paste. It doesn't evaporate. I doubt it goes bad in less than 100 years.

You will most likely smoke your processor if you don't have the correct pressure on the processor. Even a slight tip may damage it. Be very careful with the clips. They usually get near components on the motherboard. Depends on the model. You might be able to use a small screwdrive to attach the clip. Be warned that if you slip you will buy a new board.

I read it wrong and answer it wrong too. So get off my case you peanut.


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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: March 11, 2008 at 05:01:00 Pacific
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If the original thermal material was a pad, remove it & replace it with a small dab of paste. You can buy RadioShack "heatsink grease" for about $2-3 a tube or any PC shop should have other brands. Follow these instructions when applying it:

http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/app...

If you have a stock AMD HSF, there are metal spring clips that have to be hooked on to the lugs on the retention bracket, then the cam lever has to rotated until it locks in place. It should take a fair amount of force to lock the lever.


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Response Number 3
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 11, 2008 at 05:35:18 Pacific
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Thermal paste can dry out. While it sounds like yours wasn't dried out it certainly was dispursed. It is always best to clean off the old and apply new according to the approved method.


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Response Number 4
Name: lordmanhamer
Date: March 12, 2008 at 04:04:47 Pacific
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i'm really really miffed with thermal paste.
i put some on my cpu about 4 months ago then i needed a new motherboard. so took off the heat sink. the heat sink didnt budge so then i pulled harder and what did i find? the cpu had lifted strait out of its mountings and bend some of the pins. the paste was as dry as a stick and the cpu still needed alot of persassion to come away.

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Response Number 5
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 12, 2008 at 05:15:31 Pacific
Reply:

lordhammer

What exact paste did you use?


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: March 12, 2008 at 05:24:55 Pacific
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"i'm really really miffed with thermal paste"

It's not the thermal material's fault that you removed the heatsink improperly!

Thermal paste generally doesn't harden. You probably still had the original thermal pad which is mostly paraffin wax. What you should have done was run the PC for a bit to remelt the wax, then shutdown & remove the HSF while it was still warm/soft. Also, you should never just yank the heatsink off...it should be gently twisted back & forth to break the bond, THEN it can be removed.


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Response Number 7
Name: lordmanhamer
Date: March 12, 2008 at 09:22:10 Pacific
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the paste was supplied with the cpu so the cheap and nasty stuff
it was rocked twisted and i even gave it verbal comands. i made the mistake of not warming it up. i admit. but yanking wasnt involved firm but controlled bulling method was applied.

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Response Number 8
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 12, 2008 at 09:34:48 Pacific
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You may have applied way too much then. If the paste covers a larger area than the actual chip then the issue is exerbated.


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Response Number 9
Name: jam
Date: March 12, 2008 at 10:09:46 Pacific
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"the paste was supplied with the cpu so the cheap and nasty stuff"

I'm not 100% clear on that. Was it a preinstalled pad on the bottom of the heatsink or did you have to apply it from a tube or plastic pack? If you applied it, did you use more than a dab about the size of a BB? If so, you used too much.


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Response Number 10
Name: lordmanhamer
Date: March 12, 2008 at 13:09:57 Pacific
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i used the paste that was supplied with the amd cpu i put on the thinest of layers not completely covering the cpu up to the edge. most of it you could see through and read the writing on the chip. then i put the cpu heat sink on gave it a bit of a twist for a even layer and spread thinner and that was it.

then when i finally removed the heat sink about 8 months later it was hard. if you saw it you would say it was a pad because it was solid on the heat sink.

the only think i can think that happened is i put it on so thin that its cause a sort of suction effect and thats why i could separate . as for the drying out only made matters worse and i think it was due to cheap o paste

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Response Number 11
Name: OtheHill
Date: March 12, 2008 at 13:36:51 Pacific
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lordhammer

Did you bend any pins on the processor? Someone here has suggested using a mechanical pencil without the lead in it to straighten bent pins. Take static precautions. A 0.5mm size seems to work well.


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