New Printer vs. Old Scanner

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June 30, 2009 at 09:49:11
Specs: Win XP Pro, Intel Cel. 1.10 GHz

First I put up this topic in the Windows XP Forum, then I realized it might be relevant to place it here as well because it may be hardware-related, too, rather than simply a software setup or compatibility issue..

I used to have an old Canon BJC-240 printer for almost 10 years which, after working perfectly for all these years, finally broke down last week. Getting that printer fixed was out of the question due to its age and the high cost of the repair, so I went for a new one instead.

I ended up buying a Canon PIXMA IP 1900, which works all right, but it has no socket for plugging in old scanners like this (I mean parallel port ones, which connect to the LPT1 port through the printer). This means I can't keep the "old setup". That's something I really didn't remember to check or take into account when choosing the new printer at the store.

As a result, I can't use my old scanner now, unless I find a way or walkaround to get it to work again - if it's ever possible, that is!

As for the scanner itself, I'm referring to a Colorado Primax 600p/1200p (parallel port - NOT a USB model). It was connected in the old, "usual" way to the old printer, which was plugged into the computer's LPT1 port.

Unfortunately, I don't have this old scanner's manual and there is very little info about this kind of model on the internet. Even their website ( seems to have vanished, so I have tried to get the scanner to work by doing different things. This is what I've done so far:

As Windows XP Pro does not recognize the scanner at all if I connect it directly to the computer's LPT1 port, first I uninstalled and reinstalled the TWAIN scanner drivers for Win 2000, which are the ones that work under Win XP as well. Windows XP won't detect any new hardware upon boot or reboot. In addition, it won't ever appear listed in Device Manager.

Now this means the scanner's socket that reads "to printer" is not being used, as I've plugged it directly to the computer's LPT1 port. (However, I don't know if that is acceptable or if it can ever work like this).

I would appreciate any ideas or suggestions anyone here might have. I would rather keep my old scanner. Otherwise, I would have to change my scanner and get a new one some time soon.

Thanks in advance for any help or ideas.


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June 30, 2009 at 10:53:17
I've fiddled with many Canon 2xx series and 4xxx series printers, and I've been using a BJC-4400 continuously since 2000. I've refilled the BC-20 cartridge as many as 12 times, the BC-02 maybe as many as 5 times. The only thing that has stopped them from working is probably damage caused by an AC power spike or surge. What were your symptoms? 99% of the time it's the cartridge that has failed, not the printer.

If the scanner worked in XP before it should work now connected to the computer's parallel port.

In the mboard's bios Setup
- make sure the printer port is enabled
- if the scanner was made after about the early 90's, the printer port there has to be in EPP, ECP, or EPP/ECP mode -usually EPP mode is fine. Windows may not recognize it at all if the mode is set to the older SPP or Bi-drectional mode.
- Your scanner may require it uses a standard IRQ for a printer port. In the P&P settings, the IRQ the printer port is using - usually 7, sometimes 5 (the IRQ may be stated where the parallel port settings are) - should be set to Legacy, not P&P. Normally, when that's set to Legacy, only the printer port can use IRQ 7.

- if the scanner was made after about the early 90's, the cable for scanner must be IEEE1284 compliant. The same cable you used before for it should work, but if you're using a different cable it should have IEEE1284 printed on the cable jacket or evident on the end connectors, or an older one that is not marked will work as long as the individual wires have a sufficient wire gauge or larger and all connections are connected.
An insufficient cable won't cause XP to not detect the scanner, but the data transfer rate will be slower than it should be.
A cable that is not marked may not have all connections connected, and that may not work with the scanner.
The cable must be a "straight through" cable - a cable meant for data transfer between computers won't work with the scanner.

If that doesn't help, you may need drivers for it in addition to Twain drivers.

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June 30, 2009 at 12:02:49
If the scanner has two ports, if it's like one I have I just looked at, one port is male (pins visible) , the other is female (holes). One port is for the scanner, the other is "pass through" - you can connect the male port to the computer for the scanner (in most cases the cable is male on the computer end, female on the other) , and, optionally, the "pass through" female port to a printer (via the 25 pin male end on the printer cable).

The scanner probably won't be detected if you connect from the computer printer port to the "pass through" port on the scanner - in your case it sounds like that's labelled "To Printer."

Printer ports on the computer are always female, except on some ancient (before 1990) computers. If you have a 25 pin male port on the computer, that's for a Com (Serial) port.

Some old SCSI controller cards have the same 25 pin female port a standard parallel port has.

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June 30, 2009 at 12:30:33
I searched for: Primax scanner

Primax Scanner FAQ

Primax Colorado D600 Scanner Guide
Includes troubleshooting


Click on the BLUE "Softpedia mirror" text, looks like the same download

Different labelling, looks like the same download:

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July 3, 2009 at 08:10:07
Thank you for all your ideas and suggestions, guys!
Even though I had already tried out most of them (unsuccessfully) a few days ago, I did everything a bit too fast and might have skipped some step(s) here and there.

This weekend I'm supposed to have enough time to go over your ideas and others' once again more carefully and in a more relaxed way, so I'll keep you updated as soon as I can.

Thank you very much once again!


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July 3, 2009 at 14:55:41
You don't need to connect to a printer.

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July 7, 2009 at 08:05:33
Hi guys!
Thanks once again, but so far, none of the suggestions or ideas have done the trick. The scanner is still "dead". :-(

At the end of Response Nr. 1, you wrote: "If that doesn't help, you may need drivers for it in addition to Twain drivers."
I can understand that, of course, but I have no idea what kind of other/additional drivers I might need. Could you please elaborate on that a little bit more? I have googled and consulted other forums as well regarding this issue, but the info available for this kind of (rather ancient) scanner is very scarce or the same as the one I've already found. :-(

Thanks again for your kind help and patience.


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July 10, 2009 at 10:40:05
"....I have no idea what kind of other/additional drivers I might need...."

See the last three links in response 3 (they may be all the same download). Try loading that - un-install any software for the scanner that's already listed in Add or Remove Programs before trying to install that.

Are you sure the bulb in the scanner is still working? They don't last forever.

- make sure the parallel port in enabled in the bios and that it's set to EPP or ECP mode.
EPP mode usually works fine.
ECP mode requires a DMA channel is available - it may not be available.

From the links I pointed you to:

The Primax software will not install if the PC is set to 640x480 16 colours.

The scanner's scanning lamp does not light up.
Make sure the TWAIN window appears on screen. If not, select the source and acquire for the TWAIN window.
Make sure all connections are secure and correct.

Error: "Scanner not found. Please check the following: (1) LPT port (SPP/EPP) is enabled. (2) Power adapter is plugged into the scanner connector. (3) Parallel port cable is plugged into the LPT port."
This is displayed if there is a problem communicating with the scanner, maybe caused by no power, no connection or an installation problem. Please check your connections and check that your wall socket and power switches are all turned on.

(MY NOTE - that you scanner is slightly newer - it may not be recognized at all if the parallel port mode is set to SPP or Bidirectional)

Plug the power adapter into the scanner’s power receptor
Plug the scanner cable into the scanner port labeled Host .
Plug the scanner cable into your PC’s printer port.
Plug the power adapter into an electrical outlet.
Connect your printer cable to the scanner port labeled Printer.
Switch your computer back on.

- if the scanner has a power switch or button, make sure it's switched on
- many scanners have a evice that physially locks the scanner so it doesn't get damaged when moving it from place to place - make sure that's not engaged - in my expereience the scanner will not be recognized if that's engaged.)

To install the scanner software,

Under Windows 95

Insert the CD into your drive.
The Setup Wizard pops up automatically with a few choices for you to make. Make your choices and follow the instructions.
3. The last screen in the setup wizard asks you to restart Windows. After this, you're ready to scan!
Note: If for any reason, the Setup doesn't run automatically, please use the Start menu Run command to launch the Setup.exe file on the CD-ROM.

In most cases it is a BAD idea to point Windows to where drivers are located for a device, when it detects a device while booting before the desktop has loaded or after the desktop has loaded. CANCEL that, and load the software for the device AFTER the desktop has loaded, according to the manufacturer's instructions - usually that's by means of you using the proper manufacturer's software installation program.
In this case, that's probably done by executing the the download such as those in response3.


An example proper software installation file can be downloaded here:

Clicking on it auto extracts it's files, and you can select running Setup, or Cancel to abort.

I looked at it's files with WinZip.

By reading the the *.ini files, I found that apparently it installs a couple of *.sys driver files

By reading ReadMe.txt, I found this:

" 3) Printer with bi-directional function
If your printer's bi-directional function is enabled, the scan function will be interrupted. Please disable the bi-directional function in the printer property sheet.

4) For Windows NT users
Windows NT is more memory consuming than other Windows O/S. To avoid system error:"Virtual memory not enough," please increase your system's memory to at least 32MB and/or increase your system's virtual memory."

(so you need at least a minimum of 32mb of ram)

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